Cowards!

[Schneibster]

Does anybody have an opinion on whether or not it's bigotry to assume that NASCAR fans are uneducated and low-class racists who hate Michelle Obama because she's black?

Changing the subject.

Answer the question.

ETA: Here, I'll throw you a crumb: they did the booing. That's not prejudice, it's judgment for their actions. Sorry you're having trouble with the difference.

[Robert_S]

Does anybody have an opinion on whether or not it's bigotry to assume that NASCAR fans are uneducated and low-class racists who hate Michelle Obama because she's black?

I just think they're fucking weird for wanting to watch cars go around in a circle for more the 90 seconds.

[mozg]

Does anybody have an opinion on whether or not it's bigotry to assume that NASCAR fans are uneducated and low-class racists who hate Michelle Obama because she's black?

I just think they're fucking weird for wanting to watch cars go around in a circle for more the 90 seconds.

It's not my thing either, but I certainly don't think I should make assumptions about the intelligence of every single person who does like it, either.

[Schneibster]

Does anybody have an opinion on whether or not it's bigotry to assume that NASCAR fans are uneducated and low-class racists who hate Michelle Obama because she's black?

I just think they're fucking weird for wanting to watch cars go around in a circle for more the 90 seconds.

It's not my thing either, but I certainly don't think I should make assumptions about the intelligence of every single person who does like it, either.

I don't think anyone's making such judgments. I think people are making judgments about people based on them booing the wives and children of the President and Vice President and you're having a snit about it.

[Drewish]

[maiforpeace]

Does anybody have an opinion on whether or not it's bigotry to assume that NASCAR fans are uneducated and low-class racists who hate Michelle Obama because she's black?

I just think they're fucking weird for wanting to watch cars go around in a circle for more the 90 seconds.

Don't forget the crashes....

[tattuchu]

Does anybody have an opinion on whether or not it's bigotry to assume that NASCAR fans are uneducated and low-class racists who hate Michelle Obama because she's black?

Is it bigoted even if it's true?

[Seth]

Is everyone who dislikes Obama a racist, or does that only apply to NASCAR fans?

Actually, it probably applies to only a very small contingent of people who don't like Obama or his wife for racial reasons. Most people don't like Obama or his wife because of their Progressive/Marxist political actions.

His wife doesn't get a pass on being excoriated like Elanor Roosevelt or Jackie Kennedy because Michelle Obama is a left-wing, Progressive political activist who has a bully pulpit as the President's wife, and who has been stepping outside of her UNELECTED position as the wife of the President and has been ABUSING her position and status by interfering in politics and the lives of ordinary Americans in significant and expensive ways, including her actions regarding "federalization" of food in public schools, and entirely unconstitutional attempt to expand Progressive policies beyond that which the Constitution permits. She needs to shut the fuck up, host White House dinners, and smile when required.

So she's getting "booed" all on her own, for the things she's done. She doesn't get a pass just because she's stumping for another Obama attempt to pander for votes.

Fuck Michelle Obama, I'd boo her too if I saw her. She's a pretentious, arrogant Progressive bitch and a disgrace to the White House, just like her husband is.

Congratulations. You're what's wrong with American discourse.

Michelle Obama went out of her way to find one little issue that wasn't remotely controversial and by rights should not have caused any problems for everything else her husband has had to do: fighting childhood obesity. And what do you right wing types do? Demonize her anyway. Babble some crap about abusing her position to federalize school lunches, showing how she has no regard for the constitutionality of encouraging healthy diets in kids, etc.. School lunches. Seriously, Seth. Get a grip.

It's not the talking, it's the action, specifically her spearheading the takeover of regulation ALL food served in public schools by the federal government, which the federal government has absolutely NO authority whatsoever to do. It's none of the federal government's business what local school districts serve in their schools outside of the requirements regarding food that the federal government actually pays for. But under Michelle Obama's guidance and direction, new regulations have been put in place to consolidate the Progressive control of our local schools, in this case as regards food served in schools that is NOT bought by the feds, right down to privately-held bake sales to support the band or football team. Doubt me? Have a look:

SEC. 204. LOCAL SCHOOL WELLNESS POLICY IMPLEMENTATION.

(a) In General- The Richard B. Russell National School Lunch Act is amended by inserting after section 9 (42 U.S.C. 1758) the following:

‘SEC. 9A. LOCAL SCHOOL WELLNESS POLICY.

‘(a) In General- Each local educational agency participating in a program authorized by this Act or the Child Nutrition Act of 1966 (42 U.S.C. 1771 et seq.) shall establish a local school wellness policy for all schools under the jurisdiction of the local educational agency.

‘(b) Guidelines- The Secretary shall promulgate regulations that provide the framework and guidelines for local educational agencies to establish local school wellness policies, including, at a minimum,--

‘(1) goals for nutrition promotion and education, physical activity, and other school-based activities that promote student wellness;

‘(2) for all foods available on each school campus under the jurisdiction of the local educational agency during the school day, nutrition guidelines that--

‘(A) are consistent with sections 9 and 17 of this Act, and sections 4 and 10 of the Child Nutrition Act of 1966 (42 U.S.C. 1773, 1779); and

‘(B) promote student health and reduce childhood obesity;

‘(3) a requirement that the local educational agency permit parents, students, representatives of the school food authority, teachers of physical education, school health professionals, the school board, school administrators, and the general public to participate in the development, implementation, and periodic review and update of the local school wellness policy;

‘(4) a requirement that the local educational agency inform and update the public (including parents, students, and others in the community) about the content and implementation of the local school wellness policy; and

‘(5) a requirement that the local educational agency--

‘(A) periodically measure and make available to the public an assessment on the implementation of the local school wellness policy, including--

‘(i) the extent to which schools under the jurisdiction of the local educational agency are in compliance with the local school wellness policy;

‘(ii) the extent to which the local school wellness policy of the local educational agency compares to model local school wellness policies; and

‘(iii) a description of the progress made in attaining the goals of the local school wellness policy; and

‘(B) designate 1 or more local educational agency officials or school officials, as appropriate, to ensure that each school complies with the local school wellness policy.

‘(c) Local Discretion- The local educational agency shall use the guidelines promulgated by the Secretary under subsection (b) to determine specific policies appropriate for the schools under the jurisdiction of the local educational agency.

‘(d) Technical Assistance and Best Practices-

‘(1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary, in consultation with the Secretary of Education and the Secretary of Health and Human Services, acting through the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, shall provide information and technical assistance to local educational agencies, school food authorities, and State educational agencies for use in establishing healthy school environments that are intended to promote student health and wellness.

‘(2) CONTENT- The Secretary shall provide technical assistance that--

‘(A) includes resources and training on designing, implementing, promoting, disseminating, and evaluating local school wellness policies and overcoming barriers to the adoption of local school wellness policies;

‘(B) includes model local school wellness policies and best practices recommended by Federal agencies, State agencies, and nongovernmental organizations;

‘(C) includes such other technical assistance as is required to promote sound nutrition and establish healthy school nutrition environments; and

‘(D) is consistent with the specific needs and requirements of local educational agencies.

‘(3) STUDY AND REPORT-

‘(A) IN GENERAL- Subject to the availability of appropriations, the Secretary, in conjunction with the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, shall prepare a report on the implementation, strength, and effectiveness of the local school wellness policies carried out in accordance with this section.

‘(B) STUDY OF LOCAL SCHOOL WELLNESS POLICIES- The study described in subparagraph (A) shall include----

‘(i) an analysis of the strength and weaknesses of local school wellness policies and how the policies compare with model local wellness policies recommended under paragraph (2)(B); and

‘(ii) an assessment of the impact of the local school wellness policies in addressing the requirements of subsection (b).

‘(C) REPORT- Not later than January 1, 2014, the Secretary shall submit to the Committee on Education and Labor of the House of Representatives and the Committee on Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry of the Senate a report that describes the findings of the study.

‘(D) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS- There are authorized to be appropriated to carry out this paragraph $3,000,000 for fiscal year 2011, to remain available until expended.’.

(b) Repeal- Section 204 of the Child Nutrition and WIC Reauthorization Act of 2004 (42 U.S.C. 1751 note; Public Law 108-265) is repealed.

Section 10 of the Child Nutrition Act of 1966 (42 U.S.C. 1779) is amended--

(1) by striking the section heading and all that follows through ‘(a) The Secretary’ and inserting the following:

‘SEC. 10. REGULATIONS.

‘(a) In General- The Secretary’; and

(2) by striking subsection (b) and inserting the following:

‘(b) National School Nutrition Standards-

‘(1) PROPOSED REGULATIONS-

‘(A) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall--

‘(i) establish science-based nutrition standards for foods sold in schools other than foods provided under this Act and the Richard B. Russell National School Lunch Act (42 U.S.C. 1751 et seq.); and

‘(ii) not later than 1 year after the date of enactment of this paragraph, promulgate proposed regulations to carry out clause (i).

‘(B) APPLICATION- The nutrition standards shall apply to all foods sold--

‘(i) outside the school meal programs;

‘(ii) on the school campus; and

‘(iii) at any time during the school day.

‘(C) REQUIREMENTS- In establishing nutrition standards under this paragraph, the Secretary shall--

‘(i) establish standards that are consistent with the most recent Dietary Guidelines for Americans published under section 301 of the National Nutrition Monitoring and Related Research Act of 1990 (7 U.S.C. 5341), including the food groups to encourage and nutrients of concern identified in the Dietary Guidelines; and

‘(ii) consider--

‘(I) authoritative scientific recommendations for nutrition standards;

‘(II) existing school nutrition standards, including voluntary standards for beverages and snack foods and State and local standards;

‘(III) the practical application of the nutrition standards; and

‘(IV) special exemptions for school-sponsored fundraisers (other than fundraising through vending machines, school stores, snack bars, a la carte sales, and any other exclusions determined by the Secretary), if the fundraisers are approved by the school and are infrequent within the school.

‘(D) UPDATING STANDARDS- As soon as practicable after the date of publication by the Department of Agriculture and the Department of Health and Human Services of a new edition of the Dietary Guidelines for Americans under section 301 of the National Nutrition Monitoring and Related Research Act of 1990 (7 U.S.C. 5341), the Secretary shall review and update as necessary the school nutrition standards and requirements established under this subsection.

‘(2) IMPLEMENTATION-

‘(A) EFFECTIVE DATE- The interim or final regulations under this subsection shall take effect at the beginning of the school year that is not earlier than 1 year and not later than 2 years following the date on which the regulations are finalized.

‘(B) REPORTING- The Secretary shall submit to the Committee on Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry of the Senate and the Committee on Education and Labor of the House of Representatives a quarterly report that describes progress made toward promulgating final regulations under this subsection.’.

SEC. 206. REVENUE FROM NONPROGRAM FOODS SOLD IN SCHOOLS.

Section 12 of the Richard B. Russell National School Lunch Act (42 U.S.C. 1760) (as amended by section 205) is amended by adding at the end the following:

‘(q) Nonprogram Food Sales-

‘(1) DEFINITION OF NONPROGRAM FOOD- In this subsection:

‘(A) IN GENERAL- The term ‘nonprogram food’ means food that is--

‘(i) sold in a participating school other than a reimbursable meal provided under this Act or the Child Nutrition Act of 1966 (42 U.S.C. 1771 et seq.); and

‘(ii) purchased using funds from the nonprofit school food service account of the school food authority of the school.

‘(B) INCLUSION- The term ‘nonprogram food’ includes food that is sold in competition with a program established under this Act or the Child Nutrition Act of 1966 (42 U.S.C. 1771 et seq.).

‘(2) REVENUES-

‘(A) IN GENERAL- The proportion of total school food service revenue provided by the sale of nonprogram foods to the total revenue of the school food service account shall be equal to or greater than the proportion of total food costs associated with obtaining nonprogram foods to the total costs associated with obtaining program and nonprogram foods from the account.

‘(B) ACCRUAL- All revenue from the sale of nonprogram foods shall accrue to the nonprofit school food service account of a participating school food authority.

‘(C) EFFECTIVE DATE- This subsection shall be effective beginning on July 1, 2011.’.

SEC. 303. FINES FOR VIOLATING PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS.

Section 22 of the Richard B. Russell National School Lunch Act (42 U.S.C. 1769c) is amended by adding at the end the following:

‘(e) Fines for Violating Program Requirements-

‘(1) SCHOOL FOOD AUTHORITIES AND SCHOOLS-

‘(A) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall establish criteria by which the Secretary or a State agency may impose a fine against any school food authority or school administering a program authorized under this Act or the Child Nutrition Act of 1966 (42 U.S.C. 1771 et seq.) if the Secretary or the State agency determines that the school food authority or school has--

‘(i) failed to correct severe mismanagement of the program;

‘(ii) disregarded a program requirement of which the school food authority or school had been informed; or

‘(iii) failed to correct repeated violations of program requirements.

‘(B) LIMITS-

‘(i) IN GENERAL- In calculating the fine for a school food authority or school, the Secretary shall base the amount of the fine on the reimbursement earned by school food authority or school for the program in which the violation occurred.

‘(ii) AMOUNT- The amount under clause (i) shall not exceed--

‘(I) 1 percent of the amount of meal reimbursements earned for the fiscal year for the first finding of 1 or more program violations under subparagraph (A);

‘(II) 5 percent of the amount of meal reimbursements earned for the fiscal year for the second finding of 1 or more program violations under subparagraph (A); and

‘(III) 10 percent of the amount of meal reimbursements earned for the fiscal year for the third or subsequent finding of 1 or more program violations under subparagraph (A).

‘(2) STATE AGENCIES-

‘(A) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall establish criteria by which the Secretary may impose a fine against any State agency administering a program authorized under this Act or the Child Nutrition Act of 1966 (42 U.S.C. 1771 et seq.) if the Secretary determines that the State agency has--

‘(i) failed to correct severe mismanagement of the program;

‘(ii) disregarded a program requirement of which the State had been informed; or

‘(iii) failed to correct repeated violations of program requirements.

‘(B) LIMITS- In the case of a State agency, the amount of a fine under subparagraph (A) shall not exceed--

‘(i) 1 percent of funds made available under section 7(a) of the Child Nutrition Act of 1966 (42 U.S.C. 1776(a)) for State administrative expenses during a fiscal year for the first finding of 1 or more program violations under subparagraph (A);

‘(ii) 5 percent of funds made available under section 7(a) of the Child Nutrition Act of 1966 (42 U.S.C. 1776(a)) for State administrative expenses during a fiscal year for the second finding of 1 or more program violations under subparagraph (A); and

‘(iii) 10 percent of funds made available under section 7(a) of the Child Nutrition Act of 1966 (42 U.S.C. 1776(a)) for State administrative expenses during a fiscal year for the third or subsequent finding of 1 or more program violations under subparagraph (A).

‘(3) SOURCE OF FUNDING- Funds to pay a fine imposed under paragraph (1) or (2) shall be derived from non-Federal sources.’.

SEC. 306. PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS FOR SCHOOL FOOD SERVICE.

Section 7 of the Child Nutrition Act of 1966 (42 U.S.C. 1776) is amended by striking subsection (g) and inserting the following:

‘(g) Professional Standards for School Food Service-

‘(1) CRITERIA FOR SCHOOL FOOD SERVICE AND STATE AGENCY DIRECTORS-

‘(A) SCHOOL FOOD SERVICE DIRECTORS-

‘(i) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall establish a program of required education, training, and certification for all school food service directors responsible for the management of a school food authority.

‘(ii) REQUIREMENTS- The program shall include--

‘(I) minimum educational requirements necessary to successfully manage the school lunch program established under the Richard B. Russell National School Lunch Act (42 U.S.C. 1751 et seq.) and the school breakfast program established by section 4 of this Act;

‘(II) minimum program training and certification criteria for school food service directors; and

‘(III) minimum periodic training criteria to maintain school food service director certification.

‘(B) SCHOOL NUTRITION STATE AGENCY DIRECTORS- The Secretary shall establish criteria and standards for States to use in the selection of State agency directors with responsibility for the school lunch program established under the Richard B. Russell National School Lunch Act (42 U.S.C. 1751 et seq.) and the school breakfast program established by section 4 of this Act.

‘(C) TRAINING PROGRAM PARTNERSHIP- The Secretary may provide financial and other assistance to 1 or more professional food service management organizations--

‘(i) to establish and manage the program under this paragraph; and

‘(ii) to develop voluntary training and certification programs for other school food service workers.

‘(D) REQUIRED DATE OF COMPLIANCE-

‘(i) SCHOOL FOOD SERVICE DIRECTORS- The Secretary shall establish a date by which all school food service directors whose local educational agencies are participating in the school lunch program established under the Richard B. Russell National School Lunch Act (42 U.S.C. 1751 et seq.) and the school breakfast program established by section 4 of this Act shall be required to comply with the education, training, and certification criteria established in accordance with subparagraph (A).

‘(ii) SCHOOL NUTRITION STATE AGENCY DIRECTORS- The Secretary shall establish a date by which all State agencies shall be required to comply with criteria and standards established in accordance with subparagraph (B) for the selection of State agency directors with responsibility for the school lunch program established under the Richard B. Russell National School Lunch Act (42 U.S.C. 1751 et seq.) and the school breakfast program established by section 4 of this Act.

‘(2) TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION OF FOOD SERVICE PERSONNEL-

‘(A) TRAINING FOR INDIVIDUALS CONDUCTING OR OVERSEEING ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES-

‘(i) IN GENERAL- At least annually, each State shall provide training in administrative practices (including training in application, certification, verification, meal counting, and meal claiming procedures) to local educational agency and school food authority personnel and other appropriate personnel.

‘(ii) FEDERAL ROLE- The Secretary shall--

‘(I) provide training and technical assistance described in clause (i) to the State; or

‘(II) at the option of the Secretary, directly provide training and technical assistance described in clause (i).

‘(iii) REQUIRED PARTICIPATION- In accordance with procedures established by the Secretary, each local educational agency or school food authority shall ensure that an individual conducting or overseeing administrative procedures described in clause (i) receives training at least annually, unless determined otherwise by the Secretary.

‘(B) TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION OF ALL LOCAL FOOD SERVICE PERSONNEL-

‘(i) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall provide training designed to improve--

‘(I) the accuracy of approvals for free and reduced price meals; and

‘(II) the identification of reimbursable meals at the point of service.

‘(ii) CERTIFICATION OF LOCAL PERSONNEL- In accordance with criteria established by the Secretary, local food service personnel shall complete annual training and receive annual certification--

‘(I) to ensure program compliance and integrity; and

‘(II) to demonstrate competence in the training provided under clause (i).

‘(iii) TRAINING MODULES- In addition to the topics described in clause (i), a training program carried out under this subparagraph shall include training modules on--

‘(I) nutrition;

‘(II) health and food safety standards and methodologies; and

‘(III) any other appropriate topics, as determined by the Secretary.

‘(3) FUNDING-

‘(A) IN GENERAL- Out of any funds in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, the Secretary of the Treasury shall transfer to the Secretary to carry out this subsection, to remain available until expended--

‘(i) on October 1, 2010, $5,000,000; and

‘(ii) on each October 1 thereafter, $1,000,000.

‘(B) RECEIPT AND ACCEPTANCE- The Secretary shall be entitled to receive, shall accept, and shall use to carry out this subsection the funds transferred under subparagraph (A), without further appropriation.’.

Michelle Obama is a Progressive activist who is misusing her position in the White House to advance Progressive command and control policies.

Your last paragraph sums it up. You don't care a thing about what might or might not actually make things better - you just hate her guts for daring to be a Democrat in the White House. All emotion, no thought at all.

I don't care what Progressives propose, because even if it sounds like it might "actually make things better" it will also be carefully designed to enhance the cancerous spread of Progressivism and the tentacles of the Progressive Executive State ever-deeper into our personal lives, further destroying the entire system of checks and balances and separation of powers that made America the greatest and most successful society on earth.

"Childhood obesity" is just a stalking-horse used to disguise Progressive intrusions on our liberty. I recognize what's going on, and I will not be duped by what you have been deluded into thinking will "actually make things better" when in actuality the loss of freedom and the blows to the separation of powers and the arrogation of power to the federal government that such things pose actually make things far, far worse in the long run.

[Schneibster]

If they hate veterans they shouldn't have come to the race.

[rab]

They booed the fucking first lady! WTF?? She had children with her promoting a good cause and they booed her!!?

Retards! Sorry, but somebody has got to say it. Too many people's brains have been rotted by watching too much FOX propaganda. Some actually believe that she's a "marxist" and promoting the "federalization" of food, whatever to hell that means.

btw, NASCAR sucks.

[maiforpeace]

They booed the fucking first lady! WTF?? She had children with her promoting a good cause and they booed her!!?

Retards! Sorry, but somebody has got to say it. Too many people's brains have been rotted by watching too much FOX propaganda. Some actually believe that she's a "marxist" and promoting the "federalization" of food, whatever to hell that means.

btw, NASCAR sucks.

Hey rab, nice to see you around again.

[Schneibster]

I’ll tell you something else — we don’t like paying millions of dollars for Mrs. Obama’s vacations. The NASCAR crowd doesn’t quite understand why, when the husband and the wife are going the same place, the first lady has to take her own Boeing 757 with family and kids and hangers-on four hours earlier than her husband, who will be on his 747. NASCAR people understand that’s a little bit of a waste. They understand it is a little bit of uppity-ism.

Source.

For anyone who doesn't know about it, the full phrase is "uppity nigger." Flush Limburger is a fat disgusting racist piece of shit drug addict.

[rab]

Hey rab, nice to see you around again.

I forgot about this forum until I found a shortcut to it in my freethought forums folder.

Thanks! It's good to be back.

[amok]

The comments about Michelle Obama being out of line because she's unelected make no sense to me at all. I'm not American but even I know that it's become part of the role of the U.S. "First Lady" to champion a cause.

From Wiki:

Over the course of the 20th century it became increasingly common for first ladies to select specific causes to promote, usually ones that are not politically divisive. It is common for the first lady to hire a staff to support these activities. Lady Bird Johnson pioneered environmental protection and beautification; Pat Nixon encouraged volunteerism and traveled extensively abroad; Betty Ford supported women's' rights; Rosalynn Carter aided those with mental disabilities; Nancy Reagan founded the Just Say No drug awareness campaign; Barbara Bush promoted literacy; Hillary Rodham Clinton sought to reform the healthcare system in the U.S.; and Laura Bush supported women's' rights groups and encouraged childhood literacy.[2] Michelle Obama has become known for spearheading legislation on child nutrition.[3]

The spouses of elected leaders do this everywhere.

[Warren Dew]

The comments about Michelle Obama being out of line because she's unelected make no sense to me at all. I'm not American but even I know that it's become part of the role of the U.S. "First Lady" to champion a cause.

So you'd be happy with Prince Charles imposing his tastes in architecture on Canada?