No Jews allowed to board flights to Saudi Arabia

[Svartalf]

I think the rest of the world should retaliate by disallowing people flying from Saudi Arabia unless the person can prove they aren't a Muslim.

LOL, I wonder how many jobs would be lost in France if we started denying access to saudis...

[Gallstones]

Why would a Jew want to go to Saudi Arabia? It doesn't sound like the kind of destination spot that would appeal to them.

That's like asking why a woman would want to go to an all male university, or a black student would want to go to white public school. The answer is to do what anyone else does in Saudi Arabia, live, work, play, etc.

Do you seriously think that Saudi Arabia is the place for a Jew to try to make inroads into ethnic persecution? Saudi Arabia is a nation of it's own law, not a school within a nation that can be made subject to the laws of the nation it is in.

Is there anything in Saudi Arabia that is advantageous to Jews and unique to Saudi Arabia, such that it can't be had anywhere else?

[Robert_S]

Why would a Jew want to go to Saudi Arabia? It doesn't sound like the kind of destination spot that would appeal to them.

That's like asking why a woman would want to go to an all male university, or a black student would want to go to white public school. The answer is to do what anyone else does in Saudi Arabia, live, work, play, etc.

Do you seriously think that Saudi Arabia is the place for a Jew to try to make inroads into ethnic persecution? Saudi Arabia is a nation of it's own law, not a school within a nation that can be made subject to the laws of the nation it is in.

Is there anything in Saudi Arabia that is advantageous to Jews and unique to Saudi Arabia, such that it can't be had anywhere else?

It's the principle of them being jerks about it.

[Gallstones]

Why would a Jew want to go to Saudi Arabia? It doesn't sound like the kind of destination spot that would appeal to them.

That's like asking why a woman would want to go to an all male university, or a black student would want to go to white public school. The answer is to do what anyone else does in Saudi Arabia, live, work, play, etc.

Do you seriously think that Saudi Arabia is the place for a Jew to try to make inroads into ethnic persecution? Saudi Arabia is a nation of it's own law, not a school within a nation that can be made subject to the laws of the nation it is in.

Is there anything in Saudi Arabia that is advantageous to Jews and unique to Saudi Arabia, such that it can't be had anywhere else?

It's the principle of them being jerks about it.

I recognize the principle. And it is all well and good to discuss the merits of it and what a person should be able to do. But I have a feeling that the consequences of pressing the principle could be unnecessarily dire. I know there are those who like to be heroic, but what would be accomplished other than notoriety? If that.

Boycotting and/or publicly criticizing the airline is reasonable, and could even be effective. But I see trying to force Arabs to accept Jews in their own nation is reaching a bit high with one's expectations.

[Robert_S]

Why would a Jew want to go to Saudi Arabia? It doesn't sound like the kind of destination spot that would appeal to them.

That's like asking why a woman would want to go to an all male university, or a black student would want to go to white public school. The answer is to do what anyone else does in Saudi Arabia, live, work, play, etc.

Do you seriously think that Saudi Arabia is the place for a Jew to try to make inroads into ethnic persecution? Saudi Arabia is a nation of it's own law, not a school within a nation that can be made subject to the laws of the nation it is in.

Is there anything in Saudi Arabia that is advantageous to Jews and unique to Saudi Arabia, such that it can't be had anywhere else?

It's the principle of them being jerks about it.

I recognize the principle. And it is all well and good to discuss the merits of it and what a person should be able to do. But I have a feeling that the consequences of pressing the principle could be unnecessarily dire. I know there are those who like to be heroic, but what would be accomplished other than notoriety? If that.

Boycotting and/or publicly criticizing the airline is reasonable, and could even be effective. But I see trying to force Arabs to accept Jews in their own nation is reaching a bit high with one's expectations.

We could just start discriminating against everyone who prays in that direction.

I doubt we would force them to do anything, but we can and should show them all due disrespect over it.

[mistermack]

Has everybody suddenly developed Alzheimers?
How come nobody can remember the dozen innocent jewish businessmen who traveled to Dubai recently, and turned out to be a mossad assassination squad, who murdered a Hamas leader.

Why on earth should the Saudis be granting travel documents to Jews or Israelis, after that?
When a state engages in assassination, it’s logical and fair to treat their people as possible assassins.
I can’t imagine why Israelis would EXPECT any travel documents to Middle Eastern countries after that.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/wo ... 5831984427

[Svartalf]

yeah, but since when are US or European Jews that suspect of being Mossad?

Do I have dozens of mossad agents living in my neighbourhood, and dozens, maybe hundreds more coming by regularly because I happen to live right by the main synagogues and yeshivot of Paris for both conservatives and Lubavitsch haredim (and possibly other brands of haredim and hassidim, I don't know them personally or well enough to be sure)

[mistermack]

yeah, but since when are US or European Jews that suspect of being Mossad?

Do I have dozens of mossad agents living in my neighbourhood, and dozens, maybe hundreds more coming by regularly because I happen to live right by the main synagogues and yeshivot of Paris for both conservatives and Lubavitsch haredim (and possibly other brands of haredim and hassidim, I don't know them personally or well enough to be sure)

The mossad gang had false identities and travelled from various European and American airports.
Check out the link.

[Svartalf]

You know, that kind of policy is like exterminating all meat animals and forcing everybody to turn vegan because there was one case of E Coli infection.

and I remember the case well enough, thank you.

[Gallstones]

It's the principle of them being jerks about it.

I recognize the principle. And it is all well and good to discuss the merits of it and what a person should be able to do. But I have a feeling that the consequences of pressing the principle could be unnecessarily dire. I know there are those who like to be heroic, but what would be accomplished other than notoriety? If that.

Boycotting and/or publicly criticizing the airline is reasonable, and could even be effective. But I see trying to force Arabs to accept Jews in their own nation is reaching a bit high with one's expectations.

We could just start discriminating against everyone who prays in that direction.

I doubt we would force them to do anything, but we can and should show them all due disrespect over it.

Most definitely.

[Coito ergo sum]

Has everybody suddenly developed Alzheimers?
How come nobody can remember the dozen innocent jewish businessmen who traveled to Dubai recently, and turned out to be a mossad assassination squad, who murdered a Hamas leader.

Why on earth should the Saudis be granting travel documents to Jews or Israelis, after that?

For the same reason The US still grants travel documents to Muslims and Arabs, after 9/11, and the many other terrorist attacks on US interests...and the myriad terrorist attacks on non-US interests.

When a state engages in assassination, it’s logical and fair to treat their people as possible assassins.
I can’t imagine why Israelis would EXPECT any travel documents to Middle Eastern countries after that.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/wo ... 5831984427

I'd be happy to support travel restrictions on Jews to the Middle East, if I could have travel restrictions on Muslims FROM the Middle East too.

[mistermack]

Perhaps it's voluntary amnesia, then.
The obvious difference to 911 was that this was assassination BY A STATE, not like Osama's, but by jews and israelis travelling as businessmen.

If the Saudi government had sent the 911 gang, I doubt if many Saudis would get travel permits to the US.

[Gallstones]

I think the rest of the world should retaliate by disallowing people flying from Saudi Arabia unless the person can prove they aren't a Muslim.

By shitting on a copy of the Koran whilst eating a bacon sandwich

Happily, vegetarians don't often get constipated.

Are you vegetarian?

[Gallstones]

Has everybody suddenly developed Alzheimers?

Maybe.

[Robert_S]

I think the rest of the world should retaliate by disallowing people flying from Saudi Arabia unless the person can prove they aren't a Muslim.

By shitting on a copy of the Koran whilst eating a bacon sandwich

Happily, vegetarians don't often get constipated.

Are you vegetarian?

In my hometown, except once in a while I'll have some fish or game. If I'm traveling, I'll eat whatever.