Republicans: continued

[Sean Hayden]

No, you're definitely waiting for someone else to provide the facts.

Here's one to help you out going forward:

I blame the media for the Blake episode, and the riots that follow. The fact that you even now excuse everyone who fucked up the facts, because their heart was in the right place, well, that only works if you agree that Harris celebrating a sexual assaulter for attacking police is a good.

You can stop calling Blake a "sexual assaulter" who attacked police as those charges were dropped.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/se ... t-n1246851

[Cunt]

Look, I don't say there isn't racism, I also don't say it is no problem, but the Blake issue isn't one you want to keep defending.

From your article...

pleaded guilty to two counts of disorderly conduct and domestic abuse

Do you know the name of his victim? Or was that not important to the racisms?

I don't have to stop saying that Biden Harris and most of the establishment news celebrated a sexual assaulter, but I'll switch do 'disorderly domestic abuser' for clarity.

Now, maybe you'll say why the article talks about him walking away, but not about any of the physical confrontation with the police, or the knife.

Or maybe you'll not wonder at all, and just assume I'm some kind of racist, because I think the establishment uses race-baiting in their tactics, and that it is awkward as hell for anyone to contradict their story.

Their CLEARLY bullshit story.

[Sean Hayden]

Actually, for a guy that prides himself on accuracy that would also be a mistake. You'd need to know a lot more and unfortunately we're not in a good position to find out.

All we may be reasonably sure of is that the prosecutor didn't want to take the sexual assault charge to trial. That doesn't mean they could prove domestic abuse either, or that Blake was guilty of any of the lesser crimes.

That's not how plea deals work.

The prosecutor simply says I'll drop the sexual assualt charge if you plead guilty to these lesser charges. "What if I don't, because I'm innocent?" Then I'll take it to trial and if I win I'll pursue the maximum prison sentence allowed....

[Cunt]

Actually, for a guy that prides himself on accuracy that would also be a mistake. You'd need to know a lot more and unfortunately we're not in a good position to find out.

All we may be reasonably sure of is that the prosecutor didn't want to take the sexual assault charge to trial. That doesn't mean they could prove domestic abuse either, or that Blake was guilty of any of the lesser crimes.

That's not how plea deals work.

The prosecutor simply says I'll drop the sexual assualt charge if you plead guilty to these lesser charges. "What if I don't, because I'm innocent?" Then I'll take it to trial and if I win I'll pursue the maximum prison sentence allowed....

What would be a mistake? Opposing the establishment narrative?

I understand that. You still haven't said anything that might besmirch the good name 'Blake'. Harris would be proud of YOU, too.

Getting back to it, found another Republican...

[Sean Hayden]

I give a reasoned response, and Cunt shits on the carpet. --good job Cunt, well done.

[Cunt]

A reasoned response?

You missed the part where you reviewed Blake's actions, and said what you thought of them.

(the article you posted missed his actions too. I dare you to look the rest of the story up, and comment on what you think of his activities that night)

[Sean Hayden]

Yes, a reasoned response to your claim that while you could --in what universe btw-- keep calling him a "sexual assaulter", you would now call him a "disorderly domestic abuser for clarity".

[Cunt]

Yes, a reasoned response to your claim that while you could --in what universe btw-- keep calling him a "sexual assaulter", you would now call him a "disorderly domestic abuser for clarity".

That's what he pled guilty to.

I think fighting the cops who were helping his victim, and going for a knife, should have gotten him more, but that's how plea bargains work, as you said.

Noticed you still have no comment about his actions that night. It's all about something else to you. I see you only looking at one side of this case study, so while I might not know all the details of the case, I know very well what elements of this case you are studiously avoiding.

I'm not here to contradict you either. It wouldn't work. If you yourself looked into the case, and found the details, you might change your mind, but I'm more interested in how 'establishment' your position is.

It's fine, I understand. If you said the critical things about him, it would require admitting that this case was a case not only of mistakes, but pretty deliberate race-baiting by the establishment.

And nothing you have commented about this case suggests you are ready to oppose the establishment narrative on this.

[Sean Hayden]

Full steam ahead with the bullshit, as usual. Stop telling me what I'm doing, you haven't got a clue.

The Blake case is just you, pretending, as you so often do to be in possession of a perspective the rest of us would have were it not for our refusal to look at things objectively.

But it's obvious you haven't actually done too much research into the case yourself e.g. you didn't even know the sexual assault charges had been dropped.

But ignore that.

The issue isn't just that you haven't actually done that much research --as consistently proven by the stream of "mistakes" you make-- you insist on assigning motives to the rest of us for failing to know something you claim to know (and are often proven not to know) that have fuck all to do with reality.

I'm not ignoring the particulars of this case because it would hurt my position. Jesus man. My position is based on the history of disparities and poor policing, a fact you acknowledged just a few days ago.

There is plenty of unequal policing.

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You want there to be a massive conspiracy to race bait the public into accepting a false narrative, but you've picked the wrong fucking target. You've stepped in it big time. You can't hide the history or the disparities.

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Attack the media, that's fine. I think there are other areas where they may be more responsible for changing public opinion to the detriment of all --e.g. psychiatric care-- but on this issue taking away all that they get wrong would still leave you with a rightfully pissed off public given the disparities in treatment under the criminal justice system.

[Cunt]

Defend Blake. Be proud. Don't say why he was there, whether he was fighting police. I doubt you would change your mind anyway.

I'll not defend him, and it doesn't mean I deny racism.

Funny how the establishment and you agree.
https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/ne ... on-reveals

The district attorney now says it was that type of evidence that shows the shooting to be an act of self-defense.

Yet the DA thinks it wasn't unjustified.

Are police allowed to defend themselves against knife-wielding people who resist arrest?

Or is this different because the guy resisting arrest was an oppressed class?

[Sean Hayden]

--when do you think Cunt will realize that he's arguing with himself?

Or did I just forget taking the position he's assigning me here?

[Cunt]

I learned that you are in unison with the establishment narrative on Blake, and probably on a lot of other stuff related.

Congrats!

[Hermit]

Black people in America' includes everyone from the wealthy elite, to the poorest of the poor.

Yes, and when you include all of them, black unemployment has been double the rate of white unemployment for decades, the average family income among blacks was close to half that of non-Hispanic whites, black child poverty rates are triple the white child poverty rates and white families own nearly ten times the wealth of black families. The difference matters. Racism exists, black president and black billionaires notwithstanding.

And even among the latter, there are unmissable statistical discrepancies One in 7.7 Americans are black. One in 87.7 of American billionaires are black. The discrepancy does not end there. On average black American billionaires are nowhere near as rich as white American billionaires and the net worth of the richest white American billionaire is 38 times the size of that of the richest black American billionaire.

Statistics matter, and they are evidence that racism exists even though races don't.

[Brian Peacock]

I give a reasoned response, and Cunt shits on the carpet. --good job Cunt, well done.

Yeah. But then again, not uncritically accepting his point automatically puts you on the side of the elite establishment.

[Cunt]

Black people in America' includes everyone from the wealthy elite, to the poorest of the poor.

Yes, and when you include all of them, black unemployment has been double the rate of white unemployment for decades

As I understand it, black unemployment improved under Trump, and is going back into the toilet under Biden.

Does that mean one of them is a racist? [/quote]
Statistics matter, and they are evidence that racism exists even though races don't.
[/quote]

I bet you keep focusing on race, rather than fatherlessness.

If you were to choose to be born a visible minority in 1970, which countries would you choose as 'best', and which as 'worst'?

I think the US, Canada and your little backwater are some of the best places. Vigorously homogenous cultures are probably 'worst'.