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Re: Gunman Shooting at Dark Knight Rises Screening.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:23 pm

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:A Glock is usually a 9mm Semi-automatic, pull the trigger, get one round, repeat as needed.
With a magazine of 10 bullets, right?
15, plus one up the pipe. I think, I've never fired one. My Ruger had 15 round clips. I carried three, plus the one in the piece.
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Re: Gunman Shooting at Dark Knight Rises Screening.

Post by Wumbologist » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:23 pm

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So, if I understand you correctly, a gun like a Glock is essentially this type of gun?
Yes. Your husband's Glock is capable of accepting high-capacity detachable magazines up to and including 100 round drums:

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My rifle came with a 90-round drum magazine, along with 4 30-round and one 40 round magazine. Most handguns use detachable magazines, and their capacity can be expanded similarly with such a magazine.
Also, see my edit in my prior post - it responds to your comments about people making their own guns. It's still a lot harder to manufacture your own gun than it is to simply walk into a store and buy one.
I won't disagree with that idea, but I would argue that it is more likely to prevent a normal, well-adjusted gun owner whose gun will never be misused in such a manner from obtaining this type of gun, while being ineffective at preventing someone who is hell-bent on causing harm from obtaining them.

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Re: Gunman Shooting at Dark Knight Rises Screening.

Post by maiforpeace » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:28 pm

Wumbologist wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:
So, if I understand you correctly, a gun like a Glock is essentially this type of gun?
Yes. Your husband's Glock is capable of accepting high-capacity detachable magazines up to and including 100 round drums:

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My rifle came with a 90-round drum magazine, along with 4 30-round and one 40 round magazine. Most handguns use detachable magazines, and their capacity can be expanded similarly with such a magazine.
Also, see my edit in my prior post - it responds to your comments about people making their own guns. It's still a lot harder to manufacture your own gun than it is to simply walk into a store and buy one.
I won't disagree with that idea, but I would argue that it is more likely to prevent a normal, well-adjusted gun owner whose gun will never be misused in such a manner from obtaining this type of gun, while being ineffective at preventing someone who is hell-bent on causing harm from obtaining them.
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No wonder some people love guns so much, that looks like a dick and balls!
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Re: Religious gun nut kills Batman moviegoers

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:31 pm

Mai, I have to get you to the Jay Henges sometime.
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Re: Gunman Shooting at Dark Knight Rises Screening.

Post by Wumbologist » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:31 pm

maiforpeace wrote:
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No wonder some people love guns so much, that looks like a dick and balls!

:funny:

It is worth noting that while such aftermarket accessories are most widely available for Glocks, this isn't owing to any particular feature of that gun that makes it more feasible than another. The Glock handgun is simply one of the most popular handguns on the market, and as such has one of the largest markets for aftermarket accessories. If it wasn't the Glock, it could be any number of other semi-automatic handguns instead.

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Re: Gunman Shooting at Dark Knight Rises Screening.

Post by maiforpeace » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:34 pm

Wumbologist wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:
:fp:

:hilarious:

No wonder some people love guns so much, that looks like a dick and balls!

:funny:

It is worth noting that while such aftermarket accessories are most widely available for Glocks, this isn't owing to any particular feature of that gun that makes it more feasible than another. The Glock handgun is simply one of the most popular handguns on the market, and as such has one of the largest markets for aftermarket accessories. If it wasn't the Glock, it could be any number of other semi-automatic handguns instead.
The sick minded in me is thinking that would be an interesting way to commit suicide...fucked by an automatic gun. :shifty:
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Re: Gunman Shooting at Dark Knight Rises Screening.

Post by Wumbologist » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:38 pm

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The sick minded in me is thinking that would be an interesting way to commit suicide...fucked by an automatic gun. :shifty:
It still wouldn't be automatic, each of those 100 rounds requires a separate pull of the trigger. Personally, I've seen too many examples of failed firearm suicides to ever attempt such a thing if I were ever inclined to take my own life. :ani:

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Re: Gunman Shooting at Dark Knight Rises Screening.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:40 pm

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maiforpeace wrote:
The sick minded in me is thinking that would be an interesting way to commit suicide...fucked by an automatic gun. :shifty:
It still wouldn't be automatic, each of those 100 rounds requires a separate pull of the trigger. Personally, I've seen too many examples of failed firearm suicides to ever attempt such a thing if I were ever inclined to take my own life. :ani:
Interesting that you can blow out part of your brain and keep on "living", if you want to call it that.
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Re: Gunman Shooting at Dark Knight Rises Screening.

Post by maiforpeace » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:41 pm

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maiforpeace wrote:
The sick minded in me is thinking that would be an interesting way to commit suicide...fucked by an automatic gun. :shifty:
It still wouldn't be automatic, each of those 100 rounds requires a separate pull of the trigger. Personally, I've seen too many examples of failed firearm suicides to ever attempt such a thing if I were ever inclined to take my own life. :ani:
I didn't think of that, for some reason I though one trigger pull would fire all ten rounds or more at once.

I think I'll revert back to the original idea of committing suicide by drug overdose. :ask: :hehe:
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Re: Religious gun nut kills Batman moviegoers

Post by amused » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:50 pm

I still want to be torn apart by lions. When the time comes...

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Re: Gunman Shooting at Dark Knight Rises Screening.

Post by Wumbologist » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:51 pm

maiforpeace wrote:
I didn't think of that, for some reason I though one trigger pull would fire all ten rounds or more at once.

I think I'll revert back to the original idea of committing suicide by drug overdose. :ask: :hehe:

There are three basic categories of firearm operating modes:

Single-action, where one must manually operate the action of the firearm between every shot. Guns like the single-action revolvers in old Westerns, bolt-action rifles, and pump-action shotguns, fall into this category. One has to manually cock the hammer, or work the bolt, or such in order to prepare the gun to fire the next round

Semi-automatic, where the gun does most of the work, but the trigger still has to be pulled in between each round. This second category is likely the most common in the US, with most handguns and many long guns designed to eject the spent casing, and chamber the next round in preparation for the next pull of the trigger

Full-auto guns, which essentially require the user to simply hold down the trigger and the firearm will continue to shoot until empty. These guns are exceptionally rare and difficult to acquire in the US, for reasons that are quite long-winded to explain. These are typically found in law-enforcement or military hands only, and in military use are actually used mostly for the purpose of suppressive fire, keeping the enemy's head down. The idea of full-auto machine guns being unlimited ammo murder hoses is greatly overstated by Hollywood and the media, in reality, full-auto capability will run a firearm dry too fast for an individual to make practical use of. I got to shoot one of these on my birthday last year, a WWII-era Thompson rented by a nearby range. Lots of fun, but ultimately not very practical and cost biiiig wampum.

Personally, I'd fear a trained shooter with a semi-automatic firearm putting each bullet individually on target, rather than wildly spraying bullets in the general direction of what they want to hit.

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Re: Religious gun nut kills Batman moviegoers

Post by Twoflower » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:57 pm

I think I'll stick with archery for now.
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Re: Religious gun nut kills Batman moviegoers

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:00 pm

Twoflower wrote:I think I'll stick with archery for now.
What pull do you favor?
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Re: Religious gun nut kills Batman moviegoers

Post by Twoflower » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:01 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Twoflower wrote:I think I'll stick with archery for now.
What pull do you favor?
I shoot with a long bow.
I'm wild just like a rock, a stone, a tree
And I'm free, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I flow, just like a brook, a stream, the rain
And I fly, just like a bird up in the sky
And I'll surely die, just like a flower plucked
And dragged away and thrown away
And then one day it turns to clay
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And there it lays until the rain and sun
Then I breathe, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I grow, just like a baby breastfeeding
And it's beautiful, that's life

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Re: Religious gun nut kills Batman moviegoers

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:02 pm

Twoflower wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Twoflower wrote:I think I'll stick with archery for now.
What pull do you favor?
I shoot with a long bow.
Full on English long bow? :shock:
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