Mississippi Conservatives - god help us!

[Robert_S]

The only other distinction I see in these two groups is one group is called 'welfare queens' and the other 'toothless hicks'.

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One is portrayed as being uneducated and stupid, and representative of either an entire state or the majority of the state that supports a certain political ideology.

The other is portrayed as a few folks that, while sounding uneducated and stupid, are at least behaving rationally and are in a way correct. Did anyone come away with the notion that the people lined up at the welfare office were being alleged to be representative of liberals?

I don't see how anyone can watch the two videos side by side and miss the clear difference in presentation.

I've lived in the ghetto and I've lived amongst the poor white trash. Poor white rural and semi-rural conservatives are generally more hypocritical and self-righteous in my experience.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I've lived in the ghetto and I've lived amongst the poor white trash. Poor white rural and semi-rural conservatives are generally more hypocritical and self-righteous in my experience.

And more aggressive.

[Coito ergo sum]

I watched Maher last night. So here's the thing--the two videos and the way they were presented are not analogous.

I saw the same distinction. And, there wasn't any ridicule added to the discussion of video two.

Also, listen to the discussion about who the doorman should be voting for. Pelosi suggests that the doorman's natural party should be the Democrats, and comments on how they are "losing" voters like the doorman who for some strange reason are now looking to vote Republican. The idea that folks in the middle class are traditionally Democratic voters is an incorrect assumption. There has always been a split, and if there wasn't we'd never see a Republican President.

Moreover, a 16 year doorman who works a full time job, plus some overtime, and earning a combined salary and tips of likely over $100,000 a year, isn't poor or destitute, and didn't get a decent, reasonable lifestyle by going on the dole. So, he may well not be able to come to grips with the idea that the welfare state should include people who are perfectly able to work.

[FBM]

I did disagree with Maher's assertion that blacks should be given handouts just because of their race. I don't feel I owe anybody for something that happened long, long before I was born. Not even my ancestors (that I know of) had slaves or imported them. As for the legacy of racism that lasted until more recently, I also didn't participate in that, so I don't see why my tax dollars should go towards reparation or to alleviate white guilt.

[Coito ergo sum]

The only other distinction I see in these two groups is one group is called 'welfare queens' and the other 'toothless hicks'.

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One is portrayed as being uneducated and stupid, and representative of either an entire state or the majority of the state that supports a certain political ideology.

The other is portrayed as a few folks that, while sounding uneducated and stupid, are at least behaving rationally and are in a way correct. Did anyone come away with the notion that the people lined up at the welfare office were being alleged to be representative of liberals?

I don't see how anyone can watch the two videos side by side and miss the clear difference in presentation.

I've lived in the ghetto and I've lived amongst the poor white trash. Poor white rural and semi-rural conservatives are generally more hypocritical and self-righteous in my experience.

I've lived in the ghetto, and I've lived among the poor white trash. I never had a safety issue among poor white trash, and hypocrisy is easy to find at all socioeconomic levels. As for the videos, the hypocrisy was only evident, IIRC, by virtue of one of the Mississippians saying he deserved food stamps because he couldn't get a job. The rest of the Mississippians were against the programs like that, from what I can recall hearing.

The presentation of these videos was different. We did not get in the beginning of the New York City video a "Welcome to New York City - one of the wealthiest cities in the union....which is also one of the most "liberal" states in the union... so, why is New York so liberal?" And, the toothless white guy in the first video that collected food stamps was asked, "...so, voting Republican hasn't worked for you...so why do you do it?" And, he responds, "it could..." -- clearly the man is an idiot. But, why didn't Pelosi ask a similar question to any of the folks in the second video? "...so, voting Democrat hasn't worked for you...so why do you do it?" Why didn't it enter into Pelosi's mind to ask that question?

What she DOES ask about the New York folks is why the doorman keeps voting Republican when (she thinks) it's not in his interest. Apparently, it IS in his interest to vote Republican, because he is doing well - a decently paying job in a big city that is affording himself a comfortable lifestyle. Is that not in his "interest?"