Do you hate Islam ?

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Re: Do you hate Islam ?

Post by Trolldor » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:07 pm

We made a pyramid at the Bioware forums out of quotes. It was massive. Tripled the screen length and I'm on a 1600 resolution mode.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Post by Thinking Aloud » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:09 pm

born-again-atheist wrote:We made a pyramid at the Bioware forums out of quotes. It was massive. Tripled the screen length and I'm on a 1600 resolution mode.
Screenshot!!!

Actually, I might just go and experiment with that somewhere else... :plot:

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Re: Do you hate Islam ?

Post by BrettA » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:20 pm

mandelson wrote: anyway, to address you questions:
BrettA tried to reply to my question, saying i only assume about her. but then she goes on to confirm that my knowledge of her was, in her words, "both correct".

"What is your reason for not liking muslims. Why do you hate Islam?[/u] Just let it out, I want to hear you.."


BrettA:
it appears based on the falshood that that I do not like muslims and that I hate Islam says far more to me about the questioner than the questioner can possibly know about me.

i can read you from here. ;)
and... you said "falsehood"?..... well, lets see if you really think it was falsehood:


I may get around to reading more of this thread, but I wish to point out just how offensive this question - presumably asked on either the assumption that I'm not muslim or that I'm a friendly rabid atheist (both correct) - is to me, right off the bat.

see what i mean ?

I rather hope that if and when I do read the rest, you've clarified that I'm wrong in my interpretation here, but I ask you to re-read to where I cut off your question and ask yourself about your own biases and what could possibly prompt such ugly assumptions about people you simply do not know.

but you just said i was right. so whats the problem now?
Well no, I don't see what you mean at all and you seem to miss my problem - which remains the same - entirely. I'll re-quote in order to try to explain:
BrettA wrote:
mandelson wrote:hi everyone ... I am a new muslim... But this is not about me. I want to ask you a basic question:

What is your reason for not liking muslims. Why do you hate Islam? Just let it out, I want to hear you...
I'd guess that others have addressed my 'issue' with the above and I didn't finish reading this question, but that it appears based on the falshood that I do not like muslims and that I hate Islam says far more to me about the questioner than the questioner can possibly know about me. I may get around to reading more of this thread, but I wish to point out just how offensive this question - presumably asked on either the assumption that I'm not muslin or that I'm a friendly rabid atheist (both correct) - is to me, right off the bat.

I rather hope that if and when I do read the rest, you've clarified that I'm wrong in my interpretation here, but I ask you to re-read to where I cut off your question and ask yourself about your own biases and what could possibly prompt such ugly assumptions about people you simply do not know. (Responding to the portion of the question that I did read will at least allow me to more easily find this thread from now on...)
So a fact ubnderlying my problem is that you assume I'm either not muslim or a friendly rabid atheist - both of which are correct. But my problem is that based on these simple facts, you assume that I do not like muslims or that I hate Islam. That is the falsehood. Can you not differentiate between these?

You assume that I dislike a huge swath of humanity (muslims) and that I hate something (Islam) merely because I'm not one of them. Would you assume that I don't like all non-Canadians and that I hate all political parties (and their philosophies) other than the one I happen to vote for? Or would you assume that I dislike all women (I'm a guy, by the way, but shot the pic) and that I hate all extroverts (I consider myself somewhat introverted)? Or would you assume that I dislike all Christians (my wife's a Christian) and hate all golf aficionados (of which I'm not one)?

If you think any of these, you're as wrong as thinking I do not like muslims and hate Islam. You don't know me at all but presume to know my dislikes and hatreds. WTF? Based on what, please? Simply because they're different? And as stated, that you then ask questions of people presuming that they dislike others or hate certain philosophies shows your own biases, not mine. So I ask you once again to re-read to where I cut off your question and ask yourself about these biases and what could possibly prompt such ugly assumptions about people you simply do not know. Given that you automatically assume that I do not like those unlike me, is it fair to assume that you do not like atheists and that you hate atheism (with your inability to see my problem, I think that the evidence for this is mounting, BTW)?
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Re: Do you hate Islam ?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:21 pm

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Yeah - but, I needed to make sure I addressed everything she was asking.

But, you're right....

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Post by mandy » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:32 pm

get the arse out of my face. who put that picture up?
he must be into porn. dirty photos are bad for you.

you guys are starved. please go find yourself a good fit wife, and be happy with her.
stop lusting after unknown pretty women. God does not like men doing that.
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Post by Arse » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:35 pm

God doesn't mind too much, not according to this guy anyway....

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Re: Do you hate Islam ?

Post by mandy » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:37 pm

Coito ergo sum,
you got a lot of anti-God feelings. i read and re-read your anti-muslim views and all the things you said. but you made no valid point, mate.
i think that all you really got a problem with is muslims who kill traitors.
but if you think about it, so does america, britain and and every other nation on earth. it is death penatly for the rats, no?
so what you so bothered if Allah says hangs the bastards?
mate, you would do the same thing. think about that, and be honest.

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Re: Do you hate Islam ?

Post by Trolldor » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:37 pm

Arse has done it again...
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Re: Do you hate Islam ?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:54 pm

mandelson wrote:get the arse out of my face. who put that picture up?
he must be into porn. dirty photos are bad for you.
That's not porn. It's a picture of a clothed woman wearing a thong getting beer out of a fridge. If buttocks and legs bother you, you've picked the right religion - a religion that thinks female buttocks and legs are "porn" and "dirty." That's another reason I hate Islam. A lot of its followers have that kind of view of women and the human body.
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you guys are starved. please go find yourself a good fit wife, and be happy with her.
Believe me. I have, and I am.
mandelson wrote: stop lusting after unknown pretty women. God does not like men doing that.
Lusting? Listen to yourself....there's that Islamic idea that female beauty is a product of the devil, and that it's natural for men to be engorged with lust and lasciviousness just by seeing the legs and buttocks (well, more like "neck" or "ankles") of woman and go madly insane with lust....that's why women go on trial in Saudi Arabia sometimes when they are the victims of rape.

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Re: Do you hate Islam ?

Post by mandy » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:55 pm

BrettA:
is it fair to assume that you do not like atheists and that you hate atheism

i dont hate atheism; its just another religion to me;
but atheists themselves are immoral, and dont know where they stand.

most atheists are anti-truth, anti-science, anti-reason, anti-everything decent.
you dont have to believe me. Decide for yourself; just take a look at this thread again and the other thread of mine:
http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10328

a fact underlying my problem is that you assume I'm either not muslim or a friendly rabid atheist - both of which are correct. But my problem is that based on these simple facts, you assume that I do not like muslims or that I hate Islam. That is the falsehood. Can you not differentiate between these?

yes. you are right. im sorry. i made a wrong assumption about you. i apologise.

i should not have done that to you BrettA. Forgive me, please.



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Post by Bella Fortuna » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:55 pm

mandelson wrote:stop lusting after unknown pretty women. God does not like men doing that.
Yeah! :lay:

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Post by Arse » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:57 pm

Bella, I think your niqab has fallen off!!! :o
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Re: Do you hate Islam ?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:59 pm

mandelson wrote:Coito ergo sum,
you got a lot of anti-God feelings.
Technically, since I don't believe there is a god that exists, they are not anti-god feelings per se. They are feelings against those who follow and worship false gods, like yours, and do and espouse awful, terrible things because of it.
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i read and re-read your anti-muslim views and all the things you said. but you made no valid point, mate.
That's because your brainwashed by your cult. Valid point: Islam imposes the death penalty for apostasy. That alone makes it repulsive.
mandelson wrote:
i think that all you really got a problem with is muslims who kill traitors.
There is no such thing as a "traitor" to a religion. But, yes, I have a big problem with murdering apostates, and others. I also have a problem with the other aspects of Islam we've mentioned.
mandelson wrote: but if you think about it, so does america, britain and and every other nation on earth. it is death penatly for the rats, no?
No. In the US and UK, there is no death penalty for leaving Christianity.
mandelson wrote: so what you so bothered if Allah says hangs the bastards?
Because it's medieval barbarity.

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mate, you would do the same thing. think about that, and be honest.

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Of course I would not do the same thing. I would support anyone's right to leave any religion. You don't. That's why I hate your stupid religion.

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Re: Do you hate Islam ?

Post by mandy » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:59 pm

Bella Fortuna, i thought you were going to keep that other picture of yours on. it was really nice and you had clothes on. you looked good.
but whats with this naked photo... please change it. thanks.
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