What he said. ^^^FedUpWithFaith wrote:I am somewhat a skeptic of man-made climate change. On the whole, I believe the climate is changing and that man is at least significantly responsible. Beyond that, I see most of the projections as little more than conjecture. I'm a big fan of weaning Western Society off of oil for other reasons that far outstrip my concerns about global warming. To the extent that global warming activists hasten that day I'm glad. But I'm also very skeptical of many of the proposed means we seem to be considering and even undertaking like trading carbon futures. I can't help believing that this whole thing will turn into a fiasco whereby we exchange one set of greedy bastards (oil companies) for another (high finance). In the end we will be able to do what we're good at doing, saying we are solving a problem we really aren't while a few fatcats get richer by enabling us to delude ourselves into thinking we're "green".
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Salman Rushdie
You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic.
House MD
Who needs a meaning anyway, I'd settle anyday for a very fine view.
Sandy Denny
This is the wrong forum for bluffing

Paco
Yes, yes. But first I need to show you this venomous fish!
Calilasseia
I think we should do whatever Pawiz wants.
Twoflower
Bella squats momentarily then waddles on still peeing, like a horse
Millefleur
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I'd rather people express concern about overpopulation for the real reason/s they think it's a problem. Anything other than that would cast a bad light on their motives and credibility in general and thus be counterproductive, I think.andrewclunn wrote:
Now see, as an asshole who thinks that the world is overpopulated as is and seriously doubts the effectiveness of democracy, this guy just made me think that even if it is a lie, that global warming might not be such a bad horse to back either way.
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Fair enough. I'm concerned about overpopulation because of resource shortages. And because of the conflicts that it will invariably lead to. i would much rather have 2 billion people starve today than 4 billion people die fighting each other 20 years from now.Charlou wrote:I'd rather people express concern about overpopulation for the real reason/s they think it's a problem. Anything other than that would cast a bad light on their motives and credibility in general and thus be counterproductive, I think.andrewclunn wrote:
Now see, as an asshole who thinks that the world is overpopulated as is and seriously doubts the effectiveness of democracy, this guy just made me think that even if it is a lie, that global warming might not be such a bad horse to back either way.
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