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by klr » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:34 am
Clinton Huxley wrote:klr wrote:IIRC, Churchill wanted to call a dreadnought
Pitt, but George V wisely refused, pointing out that the jolly jack tars would only have to modify one letter to make a nickname.
... anecdote from
Dreadnought of course.
Various options present themselves there....
The "scatological" option was the one George foresaw. A thought "... unworthy of the royal mind" - Churchill.
From the link I posted above:
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by JimC » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:34 pm
Then there were the Flower Class corvettes...
Was there ever an HMS Pansy?
But getting back to the war...
Will it be China against the rest, or will it have allies? Maybe encouraging North Korea to invade the South as a distraction for the US?
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by klr » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:39 pm
JimC wrote:Then there were the Flower Class corvettes...
Was there ever an HMS Pansy?
But getting back to the war...
Will it be China against the rest, or will it have allies? Maybe encouraging North Korea to invade the South as a distraction for the US?
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by Calilasseia » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:18 am
I thought it was rhyming slang, not modifying one letter, that George V alighted upon, having been a sailor himself. Unless you can flesh out the quote ... ?
From
here ...
Churchill also had a protracted disagreement with the King over the naming of vessels in His Majesty's Navy. While they agreed on Hero, Agincourt and Raleigh for the new battleships they differed on the name Pitt, which the King considered neither "euphonious nor dignified. " Nor did the King like Ark Royal which seemed to him a misnomer to apply to a ship of metal. He feared that it would eventually be known as the Noah's Ark.
As for
Dido being a bad choice of name for a Royal Navy vessel, as a figure from Classical Antiquity she's in good standing.
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by klr » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:33 am
Calilasseia wrote:I thought it was rhyming slang, not modifying one letter, that George V alighted upon, having been a sailor himself. Unless you can flesh out the quote ... ?
From
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Churchill also had a protracted disagreement with the King over the naming of vessels in His Majesty's Navy. While they agreed on Hero, Agincourt and Raleigh for the new battleships they differed on the name Pitt, which the King considered neither "euphonious nor dignified. " Nor did the King like Ark Royal which seemed to him a misnomer to apply to a ship of metal. He feared that it would eventually be known as the Noah's Ark.
As for
Dido being a bad choice of name for a Royal Navy vessel, as a figure from Classical Antiquity she's in good standing.
Oh, I know where Dido came from, but even so ... the Royal Navy is has a knack of choosing names which later become ... shall we say suspect.
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by Ian » Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:39 am
USS Ponce is pronounced "pon-say". It's French or something. We also have a USS Bonhomme Richard ("ree-shard").
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by Clinton Huxley » Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:22 am
Ian wrote:USS Ponce is pronounced "pon-say". It's French or something. We also have a USS Bonhomme Richard ("ree-shard").
It ain't pronounced "Pon-say" over here....
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by pErvinalia » Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:34 am
Only ponces would pronounce it "pon-say"..
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by JimC » Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:36 am
"Pounce" would be a better name for a warship, surely. At least it's vaguely predatory...
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by Thinking Aloud » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:37 am
Mind you, "Waterloo" is a very silly name when it comes down to it, and we had "HMS Waterloo" a couple-a-hundred years ago.
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by Tyrannical » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:51 pm
klr wrote:IIRC, Churchill wanted to call a dreadnought
Pitt, but George V wisely refused, pointing out that the jolly jack tars would only have to modify one letter to make a nickname.
... anecdote from
Dreadnought of course.
And Puckman was changed to Pac Man for that reason.
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by Mysturji » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:20 pm
There's a warship called "Dido"?
Ian wrote:USS Ponce is pronounced "pon-say". It's French or something. We also have a USS Bonhomme Richard ("ree-shard").
I thought it was the USS Bonhomme DeNeige
P.S. I don't pronounce it "Ponsay" either.
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by Audley Strange » Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:15 am
The Military need to hire some fantasy or sci-fi writers to name their things. "Activate the X-17 Arial Reconnaissance Drones." sounds cool but "Unleash the Agony Hive!" has a better ring to it I think. Ships could be called things like "Horror of the Brine" and "The Great Drowner", make it all sound like a bad role playing game and perhaps we'll see how ludicrous we're all being.
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by Clinton Huxley » Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:25 am
That Argentine President woman objected to Britain sending a "destroyer" to the Falklands because "destroyer" sounds a bit fighty.
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