Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?

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Re: Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?

Post by Clinton Huxley » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:22 pm

I've just shaded a cell in an excel sheet a slightly different colour to the others. That's my contribution to the UKs GDP for today....
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Re: Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?

Post by Svartalf » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:23 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
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Tyrannical wrote:Ironic that a college professor wrote it, since I don't think there is anything as bloated as a university.
except the upper echelons of a multinational corporation or a state administration, of course.
No, I don't think even government reaches the bloated level that universities can. At least in the US.
I never noticed bloat in French Uni when I was a student, and my cousin who's a don in U of Pennsylvania doesn't complain about any there either.
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Re: Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?

Post by Tyrannical » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:33 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Ironic that a college professor wrote it, since I don't think there is anything as bloated as a university.
except the upper echelons of a multinational corporation or a state administration, of course.
No, I don't think even government reaches the bloated level that universities can. At least in the US.
Not really true. Some of us have long been on skeleton crews because there's no money to support adequate staffing.
I think that can be a sign of bloat, and is because universities try to do too many different things. It's not that they have too few resources, it is they spread them out too thinly. This creates the illusion of under staffing, and encourages more bloat as they attempt to provide adequate staffing.
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Re: Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:42 pm

I have 2 jobs and spend 3-4 days doing each!
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Re: Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?

Post by Pappa » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:54 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:I've just shaded a cell in an excel sheet a slightly different colour to the others. That's my contribution to the UKs GDP for today....
Did you use the format painter?

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Re: Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?

Post by Tyrannical » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:59 pm

Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?
:o :shock: :? Slave hours those are! I actually "work" significantly less than that on my shift :hehe:

I monitor computer things at night, which means I occasionally look at things. Sometimes things break and I have to call people to fix those things :{D Some simple things I have to fix myself, which counts as work :roll: Maybe a couple of calls from people wanting something something simple. Cause if it was complicated I tell them to call back in the morning :smoke: I think the biggest average chunk of my "work" time is reading my morning emails and what work other people have planned. Yup, my biggest amount of work is reading about other peoples work :funny: And to top it all off, I have a new trainee who is already mostly trained because he worked the job previously. For training purposes I make him do all the work :{D I think about work too, and if I were a lawyer that would be billable and count :hehe: Naw, I didn't move those heavy boxes. But I thought about it :razzle:
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Re: Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?

Post by Bella Fortuna » Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:04 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Ironic that a college professor wrote it, since I don't think there is anything as bloated as a university.
except the upper echelons of a multinational corporation or a state administration, of course.
No, I don't think even government reaches the bloated level that universities can. At least in the US.
Not really true. Some of us have long been on skeleton crews because there's no money to support adequate staffing.
I think that can be a sign of bloat, and is because universities try to do too many different things. It's not that they have too few resources, it is they spread them out too thinly. This creates the illusion of under staffing, and encourages more bloat as they attempt to provide adequate staffing.
Ludicrous.

If you have a charge (or number of charges that you are bound by law/policy/charter/etc. to provide) and your resources are spread too thinly, then you have inadequate resources! :fp:
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Re: Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:11 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
racist dude wrote:
someone wrote: Not really true. Some of us have long been on skeleton crews because there's no money to support adequate staffing.
I think that can be a sign of bloat, and is because universities try to do too many different things. It's not that they have too few resources, it is they spread them out too thinly. This creates the illusion of under staffing, and encourages more bloat as they attempt to provide adequate staffing.
Ludicrous.

If you have a charge (or number of charges that you are bound by law/policy/charter/etc. to provide) and your resources are spread too thinly, then you have inadequate resources! :fp:
He clearly doesn't know what he is talking about. The doctrine of neoliberalism that is followed in the US, Australia etc, has seen a reduction in the level of core funding and resources that most state education institutes and universities receive from government. Universities are required more and more these days to source funding from external sources. I.e. it's just a big market in education. That doesn't lead to bloat, it leads to ruthless penny pinching.

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Re: Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?

Post by Clinton Huxley » Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:26 pm

Pappa wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:I've just shaded a cell in an excel sheet a slightly different colour to the others. That's my contribution to the UKs GDP for today....
Did you use the format painter?
Felt tip. I've just scrolled down and now the wrong cell is shaded. Does work never end?
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Re: Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?

Post by klr » Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:30 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:I've just shaded a cell in an excel sheet a slightly different colour to the others. That's my contribution to the UKs GDP for today....
The world will be an infinitely better place because of this. :hehe:
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Re: Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?

Post by Mysturji » Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:53 pm

We aren't?
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Post by Mysturji » Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:57 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:The doctrine of neoliberalism that is followed in the US...
:funny: :funny: :funny: :hehe: :lol: :clap: :funny: :hilarious: :drunk: :clap: :doh: :hehe: :lol: :funny: :funny: :hehe: :lol: :funny:

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Re: Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?

Post by Tero » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:09 pm

I meant 4x1h in the 8h window. I actually work with my hands. We don't have robots to do it. On industrial scale it has pumps etc and filtrations are automatic. But it's not faster on 100kg vs 100g.

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Re: Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:04 pm

Mysturji wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:The doctrine of neoliberalism that is followed in the US...
:funny: :funny: :funny: :hehe: :lol: :clap: :funny: :hilarious: :drunk: :clap: :doh: :hehe: :lol: :funny: :funny: :hehe: :lol: :funny:

Oh.
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Re: Why aren't we all working 3-4 hour days?

Post by Mysturji » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:32 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Mysturji wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:The doctrine of neoliberalism that is followed in the US...
:funny: :funny: :funny: :hehe: :lol: :clap: :funny: :hilarious: :drunk: :clap: :doh: :hehe: :lol: :funny: :funny: :hehe: :lol: :funny:

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Of course. Are you with Seth and believe Obama is a Marxist? :ask:
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