Jet crash-lands at San Francisco airport

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Re: Jet crash-lands at San Francisco airport

Post by cronus » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:14 pm

It's amazing how the fire must have taken hold with modern plastic airframes isn't it? Still, could be worse and made from paper to save costs? :coffee:
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Post by Tero » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:51 pm

The plane was coming in too low. Isn't there some light on the dash blinking TOO LOW, idiot! ?

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Post by Daedalus » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:58 pm

Tero wrote:The plane was coming in too low. Isn't there some light on the dash blinking TOO LOW, idiot! ?
There are warnings for Angle of Attack, but if the angle was right and it was all just done too early... I don't think so. After all, then it would go off on every landing, and an alarm that always fires is useless.

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Re: Jet crash-lands at San Francisco airport

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:00 pm

Tero wrote:The plane was coming in too low. Isn't there some light on the dash blinking TOO LOW, idiot! ?
Sudden downdraft. Microbursts of wind can really mess with a plane.
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Re: Jet crash-lands at San Francisco airport

Post by Tero » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:50 pm

Looks like nothing unusual happened, he was just too low. Even the wheels would not have cleared the end of the runway. With the landing gear up possibly he could have cleared it with just a few feet and slowly pulled the nose up. Theoretically. He could have just said "so much for the wheels, lets do a belly flop landing." Instead he pulled it up.

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Post by Warren Dew » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:54 am

Tero wrote:The plane was coming in too low. Isn't there some light on the dash blinking TOO LOW, idiot! ?
The airport ILF was turned off, so no.

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Re: Jet crash-lands at San Francisco airport

Post by Warren Dew » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:55 am

PsychoSerenity wrote:Planes are normally safe aren't they? :nervous:
Hey, less than 1% of the passengers on this flight died. That's pretty good odds, right?

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Post by macdoc » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:09 am

VFR - the pilot just blew it and the speed....who knows fatigue,

The top lines are what a normal glide path looks like

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when you are on the correct glide path you pick a spot on the runway and it just grows larger in the windscreen - does not move much.
He was nowhere near that and that should have triggered a go around much much earlier.
He was just all out of his window.
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Post by macdoc » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:12 am

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Post by Daedalus » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:41 am

The pilot apparently was training on the 777, with 43 hours on that particular aircraft.
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Post by FBM » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:43 am

Daedalus wrote:The pilot apparently was training on the 777, with 43 hours on that particular aircraft.
And first landing at SF in it, IIRC.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:45 am

FBM wrote:
Daedalus wrote:The pilot apparently was training on the 777, with 43 hours on that particular aircraft.
And only landing at SF in it, IIRC.
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Post by FBM » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:52 am

:spray: Yeah, ah rekin...
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Post by Daedalus » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:55 am

First landing in a plane, and it has to be full of people?!

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Re: Jet crash-lands at San Francisco airport

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:02 pm

Daedalus wrote:First landing in a plane, and it has to be full of people?!

:?
No, first landing at SFO. I doubt he'll be invited back.
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