Thievery Is a Standard Part of Jewish-Israeli Culture

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Re: Thievery Is a Standard Part of Jewish-Israeli Culture

Post by Lozzer » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:24 pm

andrewclunn wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
Gawd wrote:I would also like to add that you can't describe any culture or race without stereotyping. Try it.
Never heard of Anthropology, darling?
Anthropology totally stereotypes people.
Ignorance win!
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Re: Thievery Is a Standard Part of Jewish-Israeli Culture

Post by Gawd » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:08 pm

Lozzer wrote:
andrewclunn wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
Gawd wrote:I would also like to add that you can't describe any culture or race without stereotyping. Try it.
Never heard of Anthropology, darling?
Anthropology totally stereotypes people.
Ignorance win!
Anthropology is the stereotyping of people and cultures, darling. Lets see you use your "Anthropology" and describe a race or culture.

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Re: Thievery Is a Standard Part of Jewish-Israeli Culture

Post by Lozzer » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:09 pm

Gawd wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
andrewclunn wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
Gawd wrote:I would also like to add that you can't describe any culture or race without stereotyping. Try it.
Never heard of Anthropology, darling?
Anthropology totally stereotypes people.
Ignorance win!
Anthropology is the stereotyping of people and cultures, darling. Lets see you use your "Anthropology" and describe a race or culture.
Erm, not really. And I'm not an anthropologist
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Post by Schneibster » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:11 pm

Gawd wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
andrewclunn wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
Gawd wrote:I would also like to add that you can't describe any culture or race without stereotyping. Try it.
Never heard of Anthropology, darling?
Anthropology totally stereotypes people.
Ignorance win!
Anthropology is the stereotyping of people and cultures, darling.
Not on Earth.
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Re: Thievery Is a Standard Part of Jewish-Israeli Culture

Post by Lozzer » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:15 pm

For example:
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Traditional Bedouin camel race in the northern Negev near Arad, Israel, November 2005
A widely quoted Bedouin saying is "I against my brother, my brothers and me against my cousins, then my cousins and I against strangers". This saying signifies a hierarchy of loyalties based on closeness of kinship that runs from the nuclear family through the lineage, the tribe, and even, in principle at least, to an entire ethnic or linguistic group (which is perceived to have a kinship basis). Disputes are settled, interests are pursued, and justice and order are maintained by means of this organizational framework, according to an ethic of self-help and collective responsibility (Andersen 14). The individual family unit (known as a tent or bayt) typically consisted of three or four adults (a married couple plus siblings or parents) and any number of children.
When resources were plentiful, several tents would travel together as a goum. These groups were sometimes linked by patriarchal lineage, but were just as likely linked by marriage (new wives were especially likely to have male relatives join them), acquaintance or even no clearly defined relation but a simple shared membership in the tribe.
The next scale of interactions inside tribal groups was the ibn ʿamm (cousin, or literally "son of an uncle") or descent group, commonly of three to five generations. These were often linked to goums, but where a goum would generally consist of people all with the same herd type, descent groups were frequently split up over several economic activities, thus allowing a degree of 'risk management'; should one group of members of a descent group suffer economically, the other members of the descent group would be able to support them. Whilst the phrase "descent group" suggests purely a lineage-based arrangement, in reality these groups were fluid and adapted their genealogies to take in new members.
The largest scale of tribal interactions is the tribe as a whole, led by a Sheikh (Arabic: شيخ‎ šayḫ, literally, "elder"). The tribe often claims descent from one common ancestor—as mentioned above. This appears patrimonial but in reality new groups could have genealogies invented to tie them in to this ancestor. The tribal level is the level that mediated between the Bedouin and the outside governments and organizations.
Bedouin traditionally had strong honor codes, and traditional systems of justice dispensation in Bedouin society typically revolved around such codes. The bisha'a, or ordeal by fire, is a well-known Bedouin practice of lie detection. See also: Honor codes of the Bedouin, Bedouin systems of justice
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Re: Thievery Is a Standard Part of Jewish-Israeli Culture

Post by Gawd » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:24 pm

And that is any different from saying that thievery is a standard part of Jewish-Israeli culture because????????

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Post by Schneibster » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:26 pm

Stereotyping is a typical racist activity.
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Post by Gawd » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:28 pm

Schneibster wrote:Stereotyping is a typical racist activity.
No, I'm practicing Anthropology. Didn't you read my research?

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Post by Pensioner » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:29 pm

Gawd wrote:And that is any different from saying that thievery is a standard part of Jewish-Israeli culture because????????
Because it sounds like bigotry to me
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Post by Gawd » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:33 pm

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Gawd wrote:And that is any different from saying that thievery is a standard part of Jewish-Israeli culture because????????
Because it sounds like bigotry to me
So you don't go by the evidence I post all the time, just your opinion. You're not practicing Anthropology.

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Post by Schneibster » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:34 pm

Don't try to reason with a pig racist. It wastes your time and annoys the pig racist.
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Post by Gawd » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:38 pm

Schneibster wrote:Don't try to reason with a pig racist. It wastes your time and annoys the pig racist.
You have yet to post any evidence that contradict the article I posted.

You seem to think that it is impossible for Jewish-Israeli culture to have a strong thievery component. Why? Were the Vikings not a culture of thieves, too?

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Post by Schneibster » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:51 pm

Stereotyping is a typical racist activity.
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Post by Drewish » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:01 pm

Schneibster wrote:Stereotyping is a typical racist activity.
Did you just stereotype stereotyping? :VSOP:
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Re: Thievery Is a Standard Part of Jewish-Israeli Culture

Post by Schneibster » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:13 pm

No.

If I were to say, "Muslims always lie about Jews," that would be stereotyping.
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