Rape Rampant In US Military

[sandinista]

Yawn. Compare the numbers to a cross-section of college campuses and get back to us.

go for it. Not surprised that a story of rampant rape gets a "yawn" from Ian. Not surprised at all.

It's cos Ian's the one doing all the rapin'.

...or just indifferent to it.

[Pappa]

Yawn. Compare the numbers to a cross-section of college campuses and get back to us.

go for it. Not surprised that a story of rampant rape gets a "yawn" from Ian. Not surprised at all.

It's cos Ian's the one doing all the rapin'.

...or just indifferent to it.

I think he was just making the point that rape in the army is likely to be no more prevalent than rape in other places. I can't see Ian being indifferent to rape.

[sandinista]

Yawn. Compare the numbers to a cross-section of college campuses and get back to us.

go for it. Not surprised that a story of rampant rape gets a "yawn" from Ian. Not surprised at all.

It's cos Ian's the one doing all the rapin'.

...or just indifferent to it.

I think he was just making the point that rape in the army is likely to be no more prevalent than rape in other places. I can't see Ian being indifferent to rape.

No more prevalent than anywhere else? I doubt that very much. What other places/organizations is there rampant rape? The army is a workplace, what other workplace do you encounter out of control rapes and sexual assaults?

[Sælir]

Jeffrey Dahmer

[Ian]

Yawn. Compare the numbers to a cross-section of college campuses and get back to us.

go for it. Not surprised that a story of rampant rape gets a "yawn" from Ian. Not surprised at all.

It's cos Ian's the one doing all the rapin'.

I was an officer. I delegated the rapin' to my subordinates.


No, the problem with Sandi is that he doesn't have a clue how to analyze information objectively. He's pushing some bits of an article in order to try and confirm his own biases without making adequate comparisons. "Rampant" is 1) a thoroughly subjective term and 2) relative. There are about two million uniformed servicemen and women, many of them around the same age as college students. With numbers like that, behavior problems happen, though I've never seen anything to make the word "rampant" come to mind. Is it possible that it's more common among young men in the military than young men in college? Yes, though I personally doubt it. But I'm not sure, 'cause wouldn't you know it... Sandi didn't bother making comparisons.

One thing I know for sure, having seen it myself a lot: the playing of video games during off-duty hours is rampant among young men and women in the military. Anybody want to bother make comparisons to college students the same age?

[Coito ergo sum]

Yawn. Compare the numbers to a cross-section of college campuses and get back to us.

go for it. Not surprised that a story of rampant rape gets a "yawn" from Ian. Not surprised at all.

I think it ought to be the source that's the issue:

http://www.zcommunications.com? Quite the objective source there.... Author of the piece, none other than Dahr Jamail. No wonder the guy focuses on the exploits of serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer (who was a murderer before he joined the army), and isolated examples of horrific stories (and stories that as told by Jamail, make no sense to the point that it appears obvious that he's leaving important details out). But, Jamail and zcommunications aren't interested in objectivity anyway.

In any case - based on the article, it says there were about 3200 military rapes in 2009. Well, there were 2.25 million active duty military and reserves in May, 2009. Compare that to the population at large.

[Ian]

Yawn. Compare the numbers to a cross-section of college campuses and get back to us.

go for it. Not surprised that a story of rampant rape gets a "yawn" from Ian. Not surprised at all.

I think it ought to be the source that's the issue:

http://www.zcommunications.com? Quite the objective source there.... Author of the piece, none other than Dahr Jamail. No wonder the guy focuses on the exploits of serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer (who was a murderer before he joined the army), and isolated examples of horrific stories (and stories that as told by Jamail, make no sense to the point that it appears obvious that he's leaving important details out). But, Jamail and zcommunications aren't interested in objectivity anyway.

In any case - based on the article, it says there were about 3200 military rapes in 2009. Well, there were 2.25 million active duty military and reserves in May, 2009. Compare that to the population at large.

Can I get a "well, duh!" for Coito? Thank you for stating what should be obvious to everyone (except of course Sandi).


(Jeffrey Dahmer! Has anyone told this author that Walt Disney was a Marine?)

[sandinista]

the article was actually just reposted on znet, its from aljazeera.

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/fe ... 44551.html

[Bella Fortuna]

You mean our military is not an elite fighting force of Jeffrey Dahmers?!

[maiforpeace]

I'd like to see some more statistics on this, but this isn't the first time that I have heard this as being a problem in the US military.

Regardless, of whether it exists elsewhere or not, it doesn't mean it's not a problem, and it should be treated with the utmost seriousness. I bet you all would be a lot less cavalier about it if you had a spouse or partner serving in the military.

EDIT:

Also, since the military does police itself, it is worth looking at it closely since what goes on in the military justice system does fall under the radar too often.

[Coito ergo sum]

the article was actually just reposted on znet, its from aljazeera.

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/fe ... 44551.html

Yeah - but, just check out the history on Dahr Jamail. It's plain why that guy wrote such a shoddily supported article making grandiose claims for which he provides nothing in the way of actual evidence....he has an agenda, and it ain't to be objective.

[Coito ergo sum]

More stats?

Canada is fifth in the world in rapes: 0.733089 per 1,000 people, which is more than twice as many per thousand as occur in the United States 0.301318 per 1,000 people. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_r ... per-capita

So, Sandy and the rest of the Canucks have some 'splainin' to do....you need to cut down on the "rampant" rape up there in the Great White North.

[sandinista]

the article was actually just reposted on znet, its from aljazeera.

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/fe ... 44551.html

Yeah - but, just check out the history on Dahr Jamail. It's plain why that guy wrote such a shoddily supported article making grandiose claims for which he provides nothing in the way of actual evidence....he has an agenda, and it ain't to be objective.

Objective? OK, I just hope you disregard every article on middle eastern topics written by western sources.

[maiforpeace]

More stats?

Canada is fifth in the world in rapes: 0.733089 per 1,000 people, which is more than twice as many per thousand as occur in the United States 0.301318 per 1,000 people. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_r ... per-capita

So, Sandy and the rest of the Canucks have some 'splainin' to do....you need to cut down on the "rampant" rape up there in the Great White North.

Oops.

[Trolldor]

You're funny Sandy, do you do Kid's Parties?

Oh wait, the court order probably forbids that hey...