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Post by Cunt » Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:07 am

Nothing you said contradicts anything Crowder said.

He's pretty good at it though, so I'm not surprised.
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Cunt wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:07 am
Nothing you said contradicts anything Crowder said.
Having found Crowder's 70 minute long video titled #AOCLied​ and I'll Prove it... | Louder with Crowder, I decided to listen to what he actually said. Well, I tried, but when he had not begun on his proof by the time the vid passed the ten minute mark, I gave up and turned to this article dealing with the same topic. Highlights are mine.
Since Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the New York Democrat, took to Instagram Live on Monday to describe what the Jan. 6 riot was like from inside the Capitol complex, critics have claimed that she wasn’t where she said she was, or that she couldn’t have experienced what she described from her location.

These claims are false.

While Ms. Ocasio-Cortez was not in the main, domed Capitol building when the rioters breached it, she never said she was. She accurately described being in the Cannon House Office Building, which is part of the Capitol complex and is connected to the main building by tunnels.

In her livestream, Ms. Ocasio-Cortez recalled hiding in a bathroom and thinking she was going to die as unknown people entered her office and shouted, “Where is she?” They turned out to be Capitol Police officers who had not clearly identified themselves, and Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said so on Instagram. She did not claim that they were rioters — only that, from her hiding spot, she initially thought they were.

During the riot, reporters wrote on Twitter that the Cannon building was being evacuated because of credible threats, and that Capitol Police officers were running through the hallways and entering offices just as Ms. Ocasio-Cortez described.

The false claims about her statements have spread widely online, much of the backlash stemming from an article on the conservative RedState blog and a livestream from the right-wing commentator Steven Crowder. On Thursday, Representative Nancy Mace, Republican of South Carolina, tweeted,

“I’m two doors down from @aoc and no insurrectionists stormed our hallway.”

But Ms. Ocasio-Cortez never said insurrectionists had stormed that hallway, and Ms. Mace herself has described being frightened enough to barricade her own door.

“As the Capitol complex was stormed and people were being killed, none of us knew in the moment what areas were compromised,” Ms. Ocasio-Cortez tweeted in response to Ms. Mace’s post. (A spokeswoman for Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said the lawmaker had no additional comment.)

Others have corroborated Ms. Ocasio-Cortez’s account and confirmed that the Cannon building was threatened, even though the rioters did not ultimately breach it.

Ari Rabin-Havt, a deputy manager for Senator Bernie Sanders’s 2020 presidential campaign, tweeted that he was in the Capitol tunnels during the attack. As Mr. Rabin-Havt moved toward the Cannon building, he wrote, members of a SWAT team yelled at him to find a hiding place.

And Representative Katie Porter, Democrat of California, said on MSNBC that after the Cannon building was evacuated, she and Ms. Ocasio-Cortez sheltered in Ms. Porter’s office in another building. She said Ms. Ocasio-Cortez was clearly terrified, opening closets to try to find hiding places and wishing aloud that she had worn flats instead of heels in case she had to run.
Maybe you could quote the bits Crowder quoted, proving that AOC lied. Or you could provide time-stamps where he actually delivered the proofs. I'm not going to plough through another 60 minutes of waffle in the hope of finding them.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:59 am

Look, if your friend was there you'd respect their account of how it felt in that moment. It wouldn't matter that she was in a building adjacent to the main action, you'd understand that being asked to evacuate and hearing/seeing the commotion could still be scary. You might even be thankful they weren't where the rioters got in.

But these guys are none of those things because they hate AOC. They are physically incapable--at this time--of empathizing with her about anything.

It doesn't help that they're also motivated by a desire to minimize what happened.
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Re: AmeriKKKa

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Sean Hayden wrote:
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Look, if your friend was there you'd respect their account of how it felt in that moment. It wouldn't matter that she was in a building adjacent to the main action, you'd understand that being asked to evacuate and hearing/seeing the commotion could still be scary. You might even be thankful they weren't where the rioters got in.

But these guys are none of those things because they hate AOC. They are physically incapable--at this time--of empathizing with her about anything.

It doesn't help that they're also motivated by a desire to minimize what happened.
Oh, I empathize. There are many people who hate her, she is a very public figure. I would have been afraid.

Crowder didn't empathize much, but he's not required to. He does a show.

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Post by Animavore » Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:18 am

It amazes me the sheer lack of integrity of the people attacking AOC and the lengths they'll go to with their lies.

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Re: AmeriKKKa

Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:21 am

Cunt wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:11 am
Sean Hayden wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:59 am
Look, if your friend was there you'd respect their account of how it felt in that moment. It wouldn't matter that she was in a building adjacent to the main action, you'd understand that being asked to evacuate and hearing/seeing the commotion could still be scary. You might even be thankful they weren't where the rioters got in.

But these guys are none of those things because they hate AOC. They are physically incapable--at this time--of empathizing with her about anything.

It doesn't help that they're also motivated by a desire to minimize what happened.
Oh, I empathize. There are many people who hate her, she is a very public figure. I would have been afraid.

Crowder didn't empathize much, but he's not required to. He does a show.

On the yootoobs.

What a time to be alive.
Apparently empathy is overrated, and I can see that trending soon. But even so, just being correct is preferable, surely?
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:28 am

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He's spreads it as thickly as a farmer spreading manure for the next crop!
You do need to spread much manure to obtain a good crop of conspiracy theories.
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Re: AmeriKKKa

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Sean Hayden wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:21 am

Apparently empathy is overrated, and I can see that trending soon. But even so, just being correct is preferable, surely?
Was he incorrect about something?
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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:23 pm

You mean besides harassing a victim because he hates her?
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Post by Cunt » Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:28 pm

He treated her no worse than she would treat a politician she disagreed with. I don't mind saying he's a mean cockmongler. She is no better, and maybe worse (depending on who has the bigger audience)

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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:32 pm

I'm not aware of any time she's behaved like that. What time are you thinking of?
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Re: AmeriKKKa

Post by Joe » Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:29 pm

Hermit wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:26 am
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
Cunt wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:07 am
Nothing you said contradicts anything Crowder said.
Having found Crowder's 70 minute long video titled #AOCLied​ and I'll Prove it... | Louder with Crowder, I decided to listen to what he actually said. Well, I tried, but when he had not begun on his proof by the time the vid passed the ten minute mark, I gave up and turned to this article dealing with the same topic. Highlights are mine.
Since Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the New York Democrat, took to Instagram Live on Monday to describe what the Jan. 6 riot was like from inside the Capitol complex, critics have claimed that she wasn’t where she said she was, or that she couldn’t have experienced what she described from her location.

These claims are false.

While Ms. Ocasio-Cortez was not in the main, domed Capitol building when the rioters breached it, she never said she was. She accurately described being in the Cannon House Office Building, which is part of the Capitol complex and is connected to the main building by tunnels.

In her livestream, Ms. Ocasio-Cortez recalled hiding in a bathroom and thinking she was going to die as unknown people entered her office and shouted, “Where is she?” They turned out to be Capitol Police officers who had not clearly identified themselves, and Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said so on Instagram. She did not claim that they were rioters — only that, from her hiding spot, she initially thought they were.

During the riot, reporters wrote on Twitter that the Cannon building was being evacuated because of credible threats, and that Capitol Police officers were running through the hallways and entering offices just as Ms. Ocasio-Cortez described.

The false claims about her statements have spread widely online, much of the backlash stemming from an article on the conservative RedState blog and a livestream from the right-wing commentator Steven Crowder. On Thursday, Representative Nancy Mace, Republican of South Carolina, tweeted,

“I’m two doors down from @aoc and no insurrectionists stormed our hallway.”

But Ms. Ocasio-Cortez never said insurrectionists had stormed that hallway, and Ms. Mace herself has described being frightened enough to barricade her own door.

“As the Capitol complex was stormed and people were being killed, none of us knew in the moment what areas were compromised,” Ms. Ocasio-Cortez tweeted in response to Ms. Mace’s post. (A spokeswoman for Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said the lawmaker had no additional comment.)

Others have corroborated Ms. Ocasio-Cortez’s account and confirmed that the Cannon building was threatened, even though the rioters did not ultimately breach it.

Ari Rabin-Havt, a deputy manager for Senator Bernie Sanders’s 2020 presidential campaign, tweeted that he was in the Capitol tunnels during the attack. As Mr. Rabin-Havt moved toward the Cannon building, he wrote, members of a SWAT team yelled at him to find a hiding place.

And Representative Katie Porter, Democrat of California, said on MSNBC that after the Cannon building was evacuated, she and Ms. Ocasio-Cortez sheltered in Ms. Porter’s office in another building. She said Ms. Ocasio-Cortez was clearly terrified, opening closets to try to find hiding places and wishing aloud that she had worn flats instead of heels in case she had to run.
Maybe you could quote the bits Crowder quoted, proving that AOC lied. Or you could provide time-stamps where he actually delivered the proofs. I'm not going to plough through another 60 minutes of waffle in the hope of finding them.
If Cunt can't summarize Crowder's argument himself, it's not worth consideration IMO. :coffee:
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Re: AmeriKKKa

Post by Cunt » Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:35 pm

Joe wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:29 pm
Hermit wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:26 am
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
Cunt wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:07 am
Nothing you said contradicts anything Crowder said.
Having found Crowder's 70 minute long video titled #AOCLied​ and I'll Prove it... | Louder with Crowder, I decided to listen to what he actually said. Well, I tried, but when he had not begun on his proof by the time the vid passed the ten minute mark, I gave up and turned to this article dealing with the same topic. Highlights are mine.
Since Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the New York Democrat, took to Instagram Live on Monday to describe what the Jan. 6 riot was like from inside the Capitol complex, critics have claimed that she wasn’t where she said she was, or that she couldn’t have experienced what she described from her location.

These claims are false.

While Ms. Ocasio-Cortez was not in the main, domed Capitol building when the rioters breached it, she never said she was. She accurately described being in the Cannon House Office Building, which is part of the Capitol complex and is connected to the main building by tunnels.

In her livestream, Ms. Ocasio-Cortez recalled hiding in a bathroom and thinking she was going to die as unknown people entered her office and shouted, “Where is she?” They turned out to be Capitol Police officers who had not clearly identified themselves, and Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said so on Instagram. She did not claim that they were rioters — only that, from her hiding spot, she initially thought they were.

During the riot, reporters wrote on Twitter that the Cannon building was being evacuated because of credible threats, and that Capitol Police officers were running through the hallways and entering offices just as Ms. Ocasio-Cortez described.

The false claims about her statements have spread widely online, much of the backlash stemming from an article on the conservative RedState blog and a livestream from the right-wing commentator Steven Crowder. On Thursday, Representative Nancy Mace, Republican of South Carolina, tweeted,

“I’m two doors down from @aoc and no insurrectionists stormed our hallway.”

But Ms. Ocasio-Cortez never said insurrectionists had stormed that hallway, and Ms. Mace herself has described being frightened enough to barricade her own door.

“As the Capitol complex was stormed and people were being killed, none of us knew in the moment what areas were compromised,” Ms. Ocasio-Cortez tweeted in response to Ms. Mace’s post. (A spokeswoman for Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said the lawmaker had no additional comment.)

Others have corroborated Ms. Ocasio-Cortez’s account and confirmed that the Cannon building was threatened, even though the rioters did not ultimately breach it.

Ari Rabin-Havt, a deputy manager for Senator Bernie Sanders’s 2020 presidential campaign, tweeted that he was in the Capitol tunnels during the attack. As Mr. Rabin-Havt moved toward the Cannon building, he wrote, members of a SWAT team yelled at him to find a hiding place.

And Representative Katie Porter, Democrat of California, said on MSNBC that after the Cannon building was evacuated, she and Ms. Ocasio-Cortez sheltered in Ms. Porter’s office in another building. She said Ms. Ocasio-Cortez was clearly terrified, opening closets to try to find hiding places and wishing aloud that she had worn flats instead of heels in case she had to run.
Maybe you could quote the bits Crowder quoted, proving that AOC lied. Or you could provide time-stamps where he actually delivered the proofs. I'm not going to plough through another 60 minutes of waffle in the hope of finding them.
If Cunt can't summarize Crowder's argument himself, it's not worth consideration IMO. :coffee:
What argument? Seriously?

He pointed out a trending hashtag, and went over the timelines and his interpretation of the facts. If you want to disagree with something he said, I might take his side, but it's a comedy show, Joe. Crowder claims to provide 'receipts' for his claims, but I don't often think them worth investigating.

He pointed out that snopes 'fact-checked' the claim in a 'democrat-serving' way, but a democrat supporter probably wouldn't see it that way.

It's reminded me of the way words have been twisted. All summer, there were riots, looting and fires. They were described as 'mostly peaceful'. The 'mostly peaceful' line became a mocking line used by the right, to point out the hypocrisy of calling a protest peaceful, with fires raging in the background. This kind of twisted the meaning, so that I could say 'Joe, I hope you have a mostly peaceful bowel movement', and it looks for all the world innocent, absent the conext of the riots.

With the riot-mostly-peaceful context, it sounds like I'm wishing you one non-peaceful moment in that movement.

I wouldn't do that. It may not be cool to say so, but I honestly hope your next BM is satisfying, relieving and boring.

With that kind of word-twisting and contextual coding, a guy could ask a mob to go do riot shit, and use the word 'peaceful'.

So one gang (the 'woke' to the dual-use of peaceful) hear 'go riot', while the rest of the crowd (normies) hears peaceful as 'peaceful'.
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Re: AmeriKKKa

Post by Cunt » Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:38 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:32 pm
I'm not aware of any time she's behaved like that. What time are you thinking of?
Behaved as mean toward a political opponent, as Crowder? Pretty steadily, against Trump. She is also kind of mean to Cruz (suggesting he was trying to kill her)

The rules don't get applied to both sides equally, and if you excuse her behaviour with 'but Trump was really bad', it doesn't change my point about how she is (same level as Crowder)
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