Internet trolls: What to do about the scourge of the Web?

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Post by Cormac » Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:41 am

If Rosa Parks had not put herself on the line, galvanisation of public opinion mentioned above may not have happened to the same extent.

It is possible, of course, that her actions were a manifestation of that tidal wave of opinion.

Of course, one wonders how overwhelming that "public opinion" was when one considers the enormous opposition.
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Re: Internet trolls: What to do about the scourge of the Web

Post by Robert_S » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:18 pm

Nonviolent civil disobedience, especially as practiced during the civil rights movement, is a pretty demanding moral code. Those people have a hardcore love and compassion ethic that few can match. They also submitted to the law even as they broke it.



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Post by Seth » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:19 pm

Cormac wrote:If Rosa Parks had not put herself on the line, galvanisation of public opinion mentioned above may not have happened to the same extent.
Meh. The political and social tide was already far along the path towards civil rights before Rosa sat down. She sat down in large part BECAUSE the civil rights movement (ie: many people) was well-established and she felt she was entitled to do so (and she was).

She may have been a catalyst and an icon, but it could have been any black doing the same thing...and I'm sure some other blacks somewhere in the south did the same thing at about the same time, it's just that their experience wasn't as interesting to the press as a little old black lady defying the Birmingham bureaucracy.
It is possible, of course, that her actions were a manifestation of that tidal wave of opinion.
It's absolutely certain.
Of course, one wonders how overwhelming that "public opinion" was when one considers the enormous opposition.
Pretty overwhelming. The problem with the Civil Rights fight was not a lack of public sentiment against discrimination and racism, it was a lack of ATTENTION to the nature and gravity of the problem on the part of the rest of America. It took the actions of civil rights protesters like Dr. King, and Rosa Parks, to focus the attention of the PRESS on the problem long enough and in enough detail to reveal to the rest of the country just how bad things really were in the South.

Once the attention of the nation was focused on Selma and Birmingham, and on the brutal murders of Freedom Riders and the equally brutal actions of the police in suppressing lawful peaceable assembly it didn't take long for things to change.
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Post by piscator » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:04 am

Seth wrote:
piscator wrote:
Seth wrote: I want to know if it's a self-portrait or if the model has a yeast infection she's trying to conceal.

That's my mom.
So that makes you what, four?
That's about right.



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Post by Daedalus » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:45 am

piscator wrote:
Seth wrote:
piscator wrote:
Seth wrote: I want to know if it's a self-portrait or if the model has a yeast infection she's trying to conceal.

That's my mom.
So that makes you what, four?
That's about right.



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Post by Audley Strange » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:36 am

Hah, good catch.
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Post by Seth » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:58 am

Daedalus wrote:
piscator wrote:
Seth wrote:
piscator wrote:
Seth wrote: I want to know if it's a self-portrait or if the model has a yeast infection she's trying to conceal.

That's my mom.
So that makes you what, four?
That's about right.



I wish my mom had been a MILF of that caliber. Congratulations.
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Somehow I don't find that little revelation from Seth too surprising.
Trust you to see the salacious where it doesn't exist. My mother would have been a much happier person if she hadn't weighed more than 200 pounds most of her life. She might have even remarried and found happiness. She didn't. That's all I'm saying.
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Post by FBM » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:20 am

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Post by Collector1337 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:25 am

An internet troll from the UK?

Never would have guessed that. It's the pinnacle of civilized society.
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Post by FBM » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:43 am

Collector1337 wrote:
An internet troll from the UK?

Never would have guessed that. It's the pinnacle of civilized society.
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Post by Cormac » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:42 pm

Seth wrote:
Cormac wrote:If Rosa Parks had not put herself on the line, galvanisation of public opinion mentioned above may not have happened to the same extent.
Meh. The political and social tide was already far along the path towards civil rights before Rosa sat down. She sat down in large part BECAUSE the civil rights movement (ie: many people) was well-established and she felt she was entitled to do so (and she was).

She may have been a catalyst and an icon, but it could have been any black doing the same thing...and I'm sure some other blacks somewhere in the south did the same thing at about the same time, it's just that their experience wasn't as interesting to the press as a little old black lady defying the Birmingham bureaucracy.
It is possible, of course, that her actions were a manifestation of that tidal wave of opinion.
It's absolutely certain.
Of course, one wonders how overwhelming that "public opinion" was when one considers the enormous opposition.
Pretty overwhelming. The problem with the Civil Rights fight was not a lack of public sentiment against discrimination and racism, it was a lack of ATTENTION to the nature and gravity of the problem on the part of the rest of America. It took the actions of civil rights protesters like Dr. King, and Rosa Parks, to focus the attention of the PRESS on the problem long enough and in enough detail to reveal to the rest of the country just how bad things really were in the South.

Once the attention of the nation was focused on Selma and Birmingham, and on the brutal murders of Freedom Riders and the equally brutal actions of the police in suppressing lawful peaceable assembly it didn't take long for things to change.

:tup:

Seems like it is time for people to wake up to similar police actions today.
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Post by Seth » Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:17 am

Cormac wrote:
Seth wrote:
Cormac wrote:If Rosa Parks had not put herself on the line, galvanisation of public opinion mentioned above may not have happened to the same extent.
Meh. The political and social tide was already far along the path towards civil rights before Rosa sat down. She sat down in large part BECAUSE the civil rights movement (ie: many people) was well-established and she felt she was entitled to do so (and she was).

She may have been a catalyst and an icon, but it could have been any black doing the same thing...and I'm sure some other blacks somewhere in the south did the same thing at about the same time, it's just that their experience wasn't as interesting to the press as a little old black lady defying the Birmingham bureaucracy.
It is possible, of course, that her actions were a manifestation of that tidal wave of opinion.
It's absolutely certain.
Of course, one wonders how overwhelming that "public opinion" was when one considers the enormous opposition.
Pretty overwhelming. The problem with the Civil Rights fight was not a lack of public sentiment against discrimination and racism, it was a lack of ATTENTION to the nature and gravity of the problem on the part of the rest of America. It took the actions of civil rights protesters like Dr. King, and Rosa Parks, to focus the attention of the PRESS on the problem long enough and in enough detail to reveal to the rest of the country just how bad things really were in the South.

Once the attention of the nation was focused on Selma and Birmingham, and on the brutal murders of Freedom Riders and the equally brutal actions of the police in suppressing lawful peaceable assembly it didn't take long for things to change.

:tup:

Seems like it is time for people to wake up to similar police actions today.
Damned right it is. Somebody in Congress needs to put up a "De-militarization of Police" bill that, among other things, requires a clear probable cause showing to a judge that a suspect IS armed before authorizing a no-knock SWAT raid. It should also require that the police make every possible attempt to arrest the person wanted OUTSIDE of a residence if that residence does or might contain innocent persons, particularly children. And also that in executing a search warrant on a residence for evidencd, they shall make every attempt to raid the premises at a time when no children are present and preferably when NO ONE is present.

Oh, and they should also pass a law that any police officer involved in a residential raid of any kind who raids the WRONG HOUSE will be charged with unlawful home invasion, and if anyone is killed, they will be charged with homicide as well. That alone might save 150 lives a year that are wrongfully taken by SWAT team raids on innocent people.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:54 am

I agree with what you've said here, Seth (apart from the severity of the last paragraph). But what do you care about the children? It's a tough world. That's what you keep telling us. Why can't they just deal with it? :ask:
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Post by Jason » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:22 am

Maybe someone could make this problem into a movie where the dystopian nature of western society is revealed in a plot revolving around the institutionalized culling of unwanted elements of society by legally sanctioned no-knock SWAT teams.

I think a well-written script would sell.

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Post by Seth » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:28 am

Făkünamę wrote:Maybe someone could make this problem into a movie where the dystopian nature of western society is revealed in a plot revolving around the institutionalized culling of unwanted elements of society by legally sanctioned no-knock SWAT teams.

I think a well-written script would sell.
I think it was called "Judge Dredd."
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