Wrong Paul: We don' need no stinkin' FEMA

[Schneibster]

Like I said, a government is an insurance company with an army, and the Libertards wanna stop it from insuring anyone and steal the money after we already paid for it.

No, SOCIALIST government is an insurance company with an army that makes promises it cannot possibly keep.

Well, it sure can't if you guys keep getting out of paying your taxes.

Libertards are thieves, IMO.

[Seth]

There's no evidence that Brown's dismissal was anything other than a political expedient,

Three in a row, sport. Where do you get this stuff, Larouche?

He resigned. <---CLUE

Yes, he resigned. And when he resigned, he said he was doing so because it was "in the best interest of the agency and best interest of the president." He took a political bullet for a government-wide failure.

He has also stated he was intending to resign prior to Katrina anyway. The fact that he resigned means nothing insofar as culpability for the mistakes made during Katrina, which are largely the fault of Nagin and Blanco for inadequate preparation, planning and evacuation and systemic failures in the entire federal government response to the disaster.

Blaming the whole failure on Brown is just ignorant liberal propaganda.

In my opinion, our investigation has shown a gross lack of planning and preparation by both the Department of Homeland Security and FEMA, and that guaranteed that the response to Hurricane Katrina -- or for that matter, any other catastrophe that might have happened -- was doomed to be uncoordinated, inadequate and, therefore, more damaging than it should have been.

We have heard from a large number of witnesses who have spoken of the full range of failures during Katrina. We have learned of one failure after another in evacuation, search and rescue, law and order, emergency medical treatment and deployment of assets. And we have learned that the federal government was simply not prepared to overcome these predictable challenges in this predictable and predicted hurricane. Even those responsible acknowledge that they did not meet the desperate needs of the people of the Gulf Coast. FEMA and DHS officials have told us that in interviews and testimony and in evidence gathered by our staff, and I want to read just a few of those that are on that chart.
From Michael Lowder, FEMA's deputy director of Response, who in an August 27th, 2005 e-mail, two days before Katrina hit landfall, said -- and I quote -- "If this is the New Orleans scenario" -- which was the way they described the big hurricane arriving -- "we are already way behind." From Scott Wells, a FEMA federal coordinating officer, quote, "This was a catastrophic disaster. We don't have the structure. We don't have the people for catastrophic disaster. It's that simple," end of quote. From FEMA Federal Coordinating Officer Bill Lokey, the top man for FEMA in Louisiana, quote, "Communications and coordination was lacking. Pre-planning was lacking. We were not prepared for this," end of quote. From former FEMA director, Michael Brown, who we'll be hearing today, when asked the question, before Katrina, was FEMA ready for this kind of catastrophe; Mr. Brown said simply and directly, "I don't think so." And finally, from Secretary Chertoff, who we will hear from Tuesday, quote, "But I also think Katrina tested our planning, and our planning fell short."
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In the early aftermath of the Hurricane Katrina debacle, former FEMA Director Michael Brown was singularly blamed for the inadequate federal government response. Our investigation confirms, in my opinion, in fact that Mr. Brown did not do a lot of what he should have done, but he was not alone. In fact, there was a massive failure by government at all levels and by those who lead it to prepare and respond as they had a responsibility to do. And in the case of the federal government response to Katrina, with the exceptions, proud exceptions, of the National Weather Service and the U.S. Coast Guard, there was a shocking consequential and pervasive lack of preparation, response and leadership.

Source: Senate Hearing on Government's Response to Hurricane Katrina, Published: February 10, 2006

If Nagin had instituted a mandatory evacuation in a timely manner, using all the resources available to him (remember the hundreds of school busses left sitting in their depots?) and Blanco had planned properly at her end, and had requested federal assistance earlier, things might have gone much differently. You see, FEMA is NOT RESPONSIBLE for disaster planning in New Orleans, the Mayor and the Governor are. FEMA comes in when a disaster strikes to ASSIST the state government. It's not the primary first responder to a disaster. That responsibility is, and has always been at the state and local level, as it should be, because those levels of government are best prepared and most knowledgable about the specific threats and vulnerabilities in the area.

[Seth]

Like I said, a government is an insurance company with an army, and the Libertards wanna stop it from insuring anyone and steal the money after we already paid for it.

No, SOCIALIST government is an insurance company with an army that makes promises it cannot possibly keep.

Well, it sure can't if you guys keep getting out of paying your taxes.

Libertards are thieves, IMO.

Libertarians simply object to "taxes" that are nothing more than socialist redistribution of wealth. We don't mind at all paying for what we use by way of government services, but we do object to being enslaved to the interests of the indolent dependent class and having our money and labor stolen to provide for them.

[Schneibster]

Damn those niggers for being poor in Amurca! Send 'em all back to Afurca!

[Seth]

Damn those niggers for being poor in Amurca! Send 'em all back to Afurca!

Guess what race Ray Nagin is...

And I don't care about the race of the indolent dependent class even a little bit. I only care that they are trying to steal my money and enslave me to their interests.

[Schneibster]

There's this little problem: you didn't pay enough taxes so they couldn't get an education.

See how that works?

ETA: Blaming them for not getting an education in 5... 4... 3...

[Seth]

There's this little problem: you didn't pay enough taxes so they couldn't get an education.

Not my problem. That's the responsibility of those who created them. People manage to get educations without stealing from others all the time. It's called "Parents, work hard to provide an education for your children." Try it sometime.

Or perhaps it's the problem of those who wish to employ them, in which case business and industry can pay to educate children because they will benefit directly from a better-educated workforce. I'm all for levying taxes for public education on business and industry. I'm also fine with selling corporate sponsorships and advertising space in schools to companies who will fork over to improve public education...but only if we first get rid of all the socialists who now teach our children and disband the NEA and all teacher's unions as a pre-condition for public funding. Otherwise, I'm satisfied with private schools only, where parents have to pay to play. That way education will be valued and worthwhile, unlike most college degrees in the US today, which are as worthless as toilet paper because the Frankfurt School Marxists have managed to debase college educations by allowing just anybody to graduate, even if they can't spell or write a coherent sentence. We should reserve education for those who will apply themselves to scholarship and excel. We shouldn't waste our money on those who just want to coast and party their way through school. After all, we do need a manual labor force to dig ditches, haul garbage and flip hamburgers, and you don't need much education to do that.

Of course, the fact is that as a large property owner, I almost certainly paid far more in property taxes in my lifetime than you ever have or will, and around here it's property taxes that pay for public education, so in point of fact I have paid far more than my fair share for educating children, even though I don't have and have never had any children I needed to have educated. So in fact, I was (until I sold the ranch) enslaved to the needs of the dependent class for most of my life.

But no more. I'm finally free of that burden, and intend to stay that way.

[Schneibster]

There's this little problem: you didn't pay enough taxes so they couldn't get an education.

Not my problem.

That's precisely the problem. You all say that, and vote to reduce taxes, and then whine when the kids don't get educated. That's why I call Libertardians thieves.

[Robert_S]

If you want a vision of the future, imagine Seth's middle finger directed at every other human face -forever.

[Schneibster]

Sure looks that way.

[Schneibster]

Seth, let me ask you a question: do you know that many insurance policies do not cover "acts of God?" And do you know why?

[Seth]

There's this little problem: you didn't pay enough taxes so they couldn't get an education.

Not my problem.

That's precisely the problem. You all say that, and vote to reduce taxes, and then whine when the kids don't get educated. That's why I call Libertardians thieves.

Don't hear me complaining. I like to have my burgers flipped and trash hauled, and I've got ditches to dig. Why should we pay to educate the children of people who don't care enough about their own children to provide them with an education at their own expense, or even on their own time.

A good many generations of humans managed to get educated without Frankfurt School Marxist public education in centuries past. Guess who educated them? Their parents. It's called "home schooling." What else do indolent welfare leeches have to do besides sit around smoking crack and watching Jerry Springer. They could be home-schooling their kids on their dime, not mine.

[Schneibster]

There's this little problem: you didn't pay enough taxes so they couldn't get an education.

Not my problem.

That's precisely the problem. You all say that, and vote to reduce taxes, and then whine when the kids don't get educated. That's why I call Libertardians thieves.

Don't hear me complaining. I like to have my burgers flipped and trash hauled, and I've got ditches to dig. Why should we pay to educate the children of people who don't care enough about their own children to provide them with an education at their own expense,

They don't have any money, duh.

[Seth]

If you want a vision of the future, imagine Seth's middle finger directed at every other human face -forever.

Nah, just the Marxists and other collectivists who want me to labor for their benefit without even having the common decency to give me a reach-around as they fuck me in the ass.

Ask, and perhaps ye shall receive, if I deem you worthy of my labor and property. Demand and you will indeed get the middle finger, or a bullet if you're too insistent. I'm not anyone's slave.

[Seth]

There's this little problem: you didn't pay enough taxes so they couldn't get an education.

Not my problem.

That's precisely the problem. You all say that, and vote to reduce taxes, and then whine when the kids don't get educated. That's why I call Libertardians thieves.

Don't hear me complaining. I like to have my burgers flipped and trash hauled, and I've got ditches to dig. Why should we pay to educate the children of people who don't care enough about their own children to provide them with an education at their own expense,

They don't have any money, duh.

Sounds like a good reason to work hard, save your money, avoid smoking crack, eating Twinkies and buying iPods with your welfare money...so your children can have a better, brighter future than yours.

Still not my problem.