Enhanced Cigarette Warning Labels...

[Coito ergo sum]

And, as if enough money isn't wasted....now we have pointless warning labels...let me guess how many 100's of government man-hours have been flushed down the toilet hashing and rehashing, approving and reapproving, the new warning label system.... http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

[Feck]

Those are mild





but the best one is

[tattuchu]

Smoking from your stoma...that's fucking hardcore!

[Feck]

Smoking from your stoma...that's fucking hardcore!

no it's only hard core if you stick the ciggy in your stoma !

[MrJonno]

Well those graphics combined with sin taxes tend to work pretty well in cutting down use. It is the governments role in protecting people from themselves

[Feck]

Well those graphics combined with sin taxes tend to work pretty well in cutting down use. It is the governments role in protecting people from themselves

The funny thing is if we all stopped smoking tomorrow the tax increase the rest of you would have to pay would be considerable It maybe a terrible idea to smoke ,but politically it's a cash cow and nobody dare have objections to how much it's milked .


It's 10.5 billion a year just in excise duty

[Coito ergo sum]

Well those graphics combined with sin taxes tend to work pretty well in cutting down use. It is the governments role in protecting people from themselves

I disagree on both counts. 20% of Canadians still smoke, and they've had miserable, extreme labels on their ciggies for what? 2 decades. 21% of Americans smoke, and we haven't had those crazy labels. My bet is that education and the anti-smoking movement has worked to get most folks to quit. The remaining 20% won't quit unless you eliminate access to it.

[mistermack]

Well those graphics combined with sin taxes tend to work pretty well in cutting down use. It is the governments role in protecting people from themselves

I disagree on both counts. 20% of Canadians still smoke, and they've had miserable, extreme labels on their ciggies for what? 2 decades. 21% of Americans smoke, and we haven't had those crazy labels. My bet is that education and the anti-smoking movement has worked to get most folks to quit. The remaining 20% won't quit unless you eliminate access to it.

I wouldn't agree. This kind of packaging does have an effect. Not on addicts, but on the young. It's bound to take years to show, but it's still worth it. Part of the attraction for the young is to look cool, and you can't look cool holding one of those packs.
It might be only a small effect, but it's still better to do it.
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[Coito ergo sum]

If it had an effect, why wouldn't the Canadian smoking rate be significantly lower than the American? It isn't, so obviously it doesn't. Or, at least there is no evidence that it does.

[mistermack]

If it had an effect, why wouldn't the Canadian smoking rate be significantly lower than the American? It isn't, so obviously it doesn't. Or, at least there is no evidence that it does.

Firstly, Canada isn't the US.
Secondly, 1% of the public is a huge number, and is significant.
It would be better if it was more, but it's well worth it, for 1%.

[Feck]

I agree with horrible images on tobacco packets . It may not stop many people smoking but if only stops a few starting then good . You can't claim the tobacco industry are or ever have been honest about the effects of smoking .

[Coito ergo sum]

If it had an effect, why wouldn't the Canadian smoking rate be significantly lower than the American? It isn't, so obviously it doesn't. Or, at least there is no evidence that it does.

Firstly, Canada isn't the US.

Well, is there a reason to think that the images haven't worked in Canada? If they did work, one would think that the rate would be lower in Canada. it isn't. What's the explanation for the American rate of smokers being about the same as Canada? We in the US have better anti-smoking education programs than in Canada?

Secondly, 1% of the public is a huge number, and is significant.

Statistically, it doesn't really demonstrate a correlation of effectiveness.

It would be better if it was more, but it's well worth it, for 1%.

Why do you assume that the 1% is because of the ads? You started off by saying "Canada is not the US." Maybe Canadian smoking education accounts for the difference....?

[Geoff]

This kind of packaging does have an effect. Not on addicts, but on the young. It's bound to take years to show, but it's still worth it. Part of the attraction for the young is to look cool, and you can't look cool holding one of those packs.
It might be only a small effect, but it's still better to do it.
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I'm not convinced. I reckon most kids would think those pics are pretty cool.

[mistermack]

Why do you assume that the 1% is because of the ads? You started off by saying "Canada is not the US." Maybe Canadian smoking education accounts for the difference....?

I was just illustrating the fact that, if you think you can draw a conclusion from the figures, it's just as valid for me to draw one.
Actually, you can't just compare two different countries like that.

I think that a constant reminder could work on some people, and probably does.
It's small, but still worth it for those who do give up, and definitely for those that might not start.
If it was a lot less than 1%, it would still be a worthwhile thing to do.
After all, tobacco is an addictive poison. It should be illegal.
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[Coito ergo sum]

So is alcohol, but we saw where making that illegal got us in the 20's, at least here in the U.S.