Rape Rampant In US Military

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Rape Rampant In US Military

Post by sandinista » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:50 pm

Sexual assault within the ranks of the military is not a new problem. It is a systemic problem that has necessitated that the military conduct its own annual reporting on the crisis.
Last week the Pentagon released its “annual report on sexual harassment and violence at the military service academies”. At its three academies, the number of reports of sexual assault and harassment has risen a staggering 64 percent from last year.
Billy Capshaw was 17 when he joined the Army in 1977. After being trained as a medic he was transferred to Baumholder, Germany. His roommate, Jeffrey Dahmer, by virtue of his seniority ensured that Capshaw had no formal assignment, no mail, and no pay. Having completely isolated the young medic, Dahmer regularly sexually assaulted, raped, and tortured him.
Women in America were first allowed into the military during the Revolutionary War in 1775 and their travails are as old. Drill instructors indoctrinate new recruits into it at the outset by routinely referring to them as “girl,” “pussy,” “bitch,” and “dyke.”
http://www.zcommunications.org/rape-ram ... ahr-jamail

Seems that beside, perhaps, the catholic church, the US military us one of the most fucked up organizations on the planet.
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Re: Rape Rampant In US Military

Post by Ian » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:52 pm

Yawn. Compare the numbers to a cross-section of college campuses and get back to us.

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Post by sandinista » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:54 pm

Ian wrote:Yawn. Compare the numbers to a cross-section of college campuses and get back to us.
go for it. Not surprised that a story of rampant rape gets a "yawn" from Ian. Not surprised at all.
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Re: Rape Rampant In US Military

Post by GreyICE » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:56 pm

Wooooowwwww. This is one of the best jobs at lying through artistic 'quoting' I've ever seen in my life.
Mountjoy-Pepka often works with male survivors of MST. She stated in a telephone interview that four per cent of men in the military experience MST. “Most choose not to talk about it until after their discharge from the military, largely because the post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) in over 60 percent of MST cases is too overwhelming,” she informed Al Jazeera.

Last week the Pentagon released its “annual report on sexual harassment and violence at the military service academies”. At its three academies, the number of reports of sexual assault and harassment has risen a staggering 64 percent from last year.

The report attributes the huge increase to better reporting of incidents due to increased training and education about sexual assault and harassment. Veteran’s Administration (VA) statistics show that more than 50 percent of the veterans who screen positive for MST are men.
The Pentagon offered no evidence that reporting rather than sexual assault itself was on the rise in the military, and there have been reports in recent years suggesting that the strains between men and women in close quarters in war zones have exacerbated the problem.

But it is also true that since 2004 the Defense Department has radically changed the way it handles sexual abuse in the military, including encouraging victims to come forward, expanding access to treatment and toughening standards for prosecution.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/17/us/17 ... .html?_r=1
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Post by Meekychuppet » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:57 pm

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Ian wrote:Yawn. Compare the numbers to a cross-section of college campuses and get back to us.
go for it. Not surprised that a story of rampant rape gets a "yawn" from Ian. Not surprised at all.
It gave me a boner.
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Re: Rape Rampant In US Military

Post by sandinista » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:59 pm

GreyICE wrote:Wooooowwwww. This is one of the best jobs at lying through artistic quoting I've ever seen in my life.
haha, artistic quoting? You flatter me, in reality I just grabbed a few paragraphs instead of posting the entire article, that's why I posted the link.
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sandinista wrote:
Ian wrote:Yawn. Compare the numbers to a cross-section of college campuses and get back to us.
go for it. Not surprised that a story of rampant rape gets a "yawn" from Ian. Not surprised at all.
It gave me a boner.
I think you're joking, unfortunately I don't think ian was.
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Re: Rape Rampant In US Military

Post by GreyICE » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:09 pm

sandinista wrote:
GreyICE wrote:Wooooowwwww. This is one of the best jobs at lying through artistic quoting I've ever seen in my life.
haha, artistic quoting? You flatter me, in reality I just grabbed a few paragraphs instead of posting the entire article, that's why I posted the link.
So you selectively happened to hit a paragraph that underscores the problem without the paragraph following it that discusses the actions taken, a misleading statistic without the following statistics that put it in context, an incident from 1977, and a context free paragraph with no support (that is clearly based on the book the following incident was taken from, with the specific experiences of that soldier generalized)?

I doubt I flatter you too much.
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Re: Rape Rampant In US Military

Post by sandinista » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:11 pm

GreyICE wrote:
sandinista wrote:
GreyICE wrote:Wooooowwwww. This is one of the best jobs at lying through artistic quoting I've ever seen in my life.
haha, artistic quoting? You flatter me, in reality I just grabbed a few paragraphs instead of posting the entire article, that's why I posted the link.
So you selectively happened to hit a paragraph that underscores the problem without the paragraph following it that discusses the actions taken, a misleading statistic without the following statistics that put it in context, an incident from 1977, and a context free paragraph with no support (that is clearly based on the book the following incident was taken from, with the specific experiences of that soldier generalized)?

I doubt I flatter you too much.
thats why you click the link...not so hard is it? :freak:
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Re: Rape Rampant In US Military

Post by maiforpeace » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:12 pm

Ian wrote:Yawn. Compare the numbers to a cross-section of college campuses and get back to us.
So that makes it OK? :think:
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Re: Rape Rampant In US Military

Post by Trolldor » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:13 pm

No, but it makes the 'rampant in the military' a fairly disingenuous claim.
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Re: Rape Rampant In US Military

Post by sandinista » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:16 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:No, but it makes the 'rampant in the military' a fairly disingenuous claim.
how so? If it's also rampant in US colleges can it not also be rampant in the US military?
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Re: Rape Rampant In US Military

Post by sandinista » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:16 pm

maiforpeace wrote:
Ian wrote:Yawn. Compare the numbers to a cross-section of college campuses and get back to us.
So that makes it OK? :think:
apparently. :ddpan:
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Re: Rape Rampant In US Military

Post by maiforpeace » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:19 pm

Sandi is simply bringing to light a current article in the media. Look up "Rape Rampant" by itself without the US military part, and what pops up first?

He's not any more selective about what he posts than a lot of people here, but he always catches more shit than usual since more people disagree with him.
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Post by Trolldor » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:24 pm

I treat his outright lies and misrepresentation the same as anybody else's. He just shits it out like dirrohea.
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Re: Rape Rampant In US Military

Post by Pappa » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:39 pm

sandinista wrote:
Ian wrote:Yawn. Compare the numbers to a cross-section of college campuses and get back to us.
go for it. Not surprised that a story of rampant rape gets a "yawn" from Ian. Not surprised at all.
It's cos Ian's the one doing all the rapin'. :whisper:
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