Scientific Proof Of God

[NineBerry]

Has the Apocalypse already started?

[rainbow]

The Rupture, I'd guess.

[Scot Dutchy]

For Dennis the Rapture cant come soon enough. I just hope he gets quick help.

[Galaxian]

For 2025 they predict the decimation of some western populations by some 70%

Decimation literally means a reduction by 10%.

You'd be more at home in Rome of two thousand years ago. Decimation nowadays means "a large proportion"

[rainbow]

Decimation nowadays means "a large proportion"

Exponentially

[NineBerry]

Decimation literally means a reduction by 10%.

Deadpan humour is when you appear to be serious and are hiding the fact that you are joking or teasing someone.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/de/wo ... ch/deadpan

[superuniverse]

https://youtu.be/IMado9ukLt0


Lol


How can we stop? The war is on. You idiots are multiplying



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Lolololol

[superuniverse]

[NineBerry]

My final public internet posting.

https://youtu.be/IMado9ukLt0


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How can we stop? The war is on. You idiots are multiplying



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Lolololol

Wow, that was quick

[JimC]

Rationalia addiction is quite powerful...

[pErvinalia]

I'm done. Seeya guys.

[Scot Dutchy]

The theistic mind cant leave it alone. It is like "een knicker in een emmer" (a marble in a bucket); makes a lot of noise but is completely empty. The FOOL knows he has lost any argument he had because he cant produce the "scientific proof of a god".
Brian pull the plug on this useless thread, now there's a good chap.

[Hermit]

https://youtu.be/IMado9ukLt0


Lol


How can we stop? The war is on. You idiots are multiplying



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Physical
Evidence


Lolololol

Correct. As the narrator says at the 1:35 mark, "there is absolutely no evidence that a historical Jesus ever lived". He was summarising Tom Harpur, an ordained Anglican for more than 40 years and professor of New Testament and New Testament Greek and a Rhodes Scholar. Excellent exposition. Thanks for the link.

[Svartalf]

Problem with god botherers is that they don't differenciate between the mythical jesus, and the historical one, and there's enough credible evidence that he would have existed. recently checked several historical practitioners who tackled the matter, and they agree that, even if you rule out all the debased pseudo evidence, there's enough material that seems genuine and close enough to think that there indeed was a guy called Jesus who was crucified by orders of Pontius Pilatus under the rule of Tiberius.

[Hermit]

Problem with god botherers is that they don't differenciate between the mythical jesus, and the historical one, and there's enough credible evidence that he would have existed.

The issue has become - and remains - a hotly debated matter since publicly arguing against the historical existence of Jesus, the man rather than a divine entity, became possible without running the risk of becoming burnt at the stake, losing one's job or suffering severe social ostracism.

As for me, I am OK sitting on the fence. There is no primary evidence in favour, and of course absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I presented my view in four posts at ratskep.

• So much of the Bible has been interpolated, deleted, downright forged and changed in other ways, it's ridiculous to lose sight of the fact that pretty much none of it can be reasonably regarded as the Gospel Truth.

• (in reply to someone else) Yes, Jesus probably existed... in the same way that William Tell, Robin Hood, King Arthur and even James Bond, who was an amalgam of several people Ian Fleming personally knew, did. The fabrications that grew around all of them made their actual existence irrelevant, though. For all intents and purposes they metamorphosed into becoming mythical figures serving ideological purposes.

• In Lataster's words, "Given the poor state of the existing sources, and the atrocious methods used by mainstream Biblical historians, the matter will likely never be resolved." and in my opinion it would be unethical to give a quantified probability or even just a range of probabilities when there is no empirical evidence on the ground of which such calculation can be made. In my view the discussion cannot go beyond a handwavy "on balance of reasonable possibilities Jesus probably existed/did not exist". My approach to the issue - that some person probably existed, around whom so much invention aggregated that the actually existing person becomes supremely irrelevant. I have no evidence for this because there is no evidence. At best we have many words - often contradictory, none of them particularly reliable - that can be given various interpretations and to which can be attributed varying levels of significance and can lead to no more than educated guesses. So, spare me the "ethical" demand for quantified probability.
  
  Given the appropriate circumstances, you too can be the core of a future messiah. Gossip grows spontaneously everywhere. Left unchecked it grows faster than weeds. A couple of months after I bought a house in a town 1700 kilometres from the city I lived in the previous 30-odd years and where absolutely nobody except my partner knew me, I met the previous owner again. He told me how he admired my skill in share trading that enabled me to buy the house with cash. This came as a surprise to me because the money came from 15 years of driving a truck as a subcontractor and acquiring a tiny, run-down terrace with the help of a huge mortgage in a Bohemian suburb of Sydney. Nine years after I went into hock over the purchase the mortgage was paid off, and the suburb had become fashionable with solicitors, doctors, owners of small businesses and other yuppies. When I sold the terrace I was utterly amazed at the ROI.
  
  I have no idea where or how the story about my alleged stock market activity arose, but there it was. Perhaps I should have exploited my nascent reputation as a financial wizard and opened a finance consulting business. With a bit of luck I might have become the money messiah of this little town, then Australia and finally the world. 10 years after my death people will remember how Saint Hermit had saved the world from utter financial ruin. Before the end of the 21st century I will have become a god with many wise pronouncements and miracles to my name. And a second coming.

• People on both sides of the issue seem to be excessively confident that they have a map from which a territory can be discerned with sufficient accuracy to come to their particular conclusion with a great deal of certainty that they are right and the other side is wrong. It's hilarious.