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OK; that one did surprise me. Not that yet another federal inmate would die because the rump smarts from being kicked out... even if it's the first woman to get it in over half a century.
What bothers me is several points about the very fact she could land on death row in Terre Haute.
a) the fact a federal prosecutor could use the lindbergh law to demand a death penalty when that law is obviously aimed at kid killers, which was not the case here... I don't know if the Missouri had the death penalty for murder back when things happened, but that murder would be a state crime, not a federal one.
b) that the prosecutor could actually make the charge and death penalty stick.
c) that the lady could not get a defender able to get that parody overruled... I mean, if the ACLU will use top lawyers to get school kids' right to abstain from the pledge or to kneel in protest at sports events, why would nobody get that person a proper defense to save her miserable life?
Would anybody have further lights to shine on this state murder or a poor, and possibly irresponsible woman?
What bothers me is several points about the very fact she could land on death row in Terre Haute.
a) the fact a federal prosecutor could use the lindbergh law to demand a death penalty when that law is obviously aimed at kid killers, which was not the case here... I don't know if the Missouri had the death penalty for murder back when things happened, but that murder would be a state crime, not a federal one.
b) that the prosecutor could actually make the charge and death penalty stick.
c) that the lady could not get a defender able to get that parody overruled... I mean, if the ACLU will use top lawyers to get school kids' right to abstain from the pledge or to kneel in protest at sports events, why would nobody get that person a proper defense to save her miserable life?
Would anybody have further lights to shine on this state murder or a poor, and possibly irresponsible woman?
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Re: Lisa Montgomery
The "I couldn't be bothered posting the article" thread is over there --------->
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I could, but I wanted to open that subject for individual discussion, rather than put it in the middle of any number of things, plus, thread title will give all the information I could find by the very same means I got them.
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It's unclear from your first paragraph whether she was pardoned or executed. I had to learn she was executed via other sources. Don't be like Cunt. We don't have a front row seat into your brain..
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Re: Lisa Montgomery
I have. I follow him on Twitter.
Re: Lisa Montgomery
I don't know a lot about the Lisa Montgomery.
But someone cutting a baby from a woman's womb with the wish to adopt it isn't sane. Insane people shouldn't be punished but treated and if necessary kept under surveillance. Not imprisoned and then murdered.
But someone cutting a baby from a woman's womb with the wish to adopt it isn't sane. Insane people shouldn't be punished but treated and if necessary kept under surveillance. Not imprisoned and then murdered.
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Follow who on Twitter? Surely Svarty's not technologically advanced enough to operate the Twitters.
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Re: Lisa Montgomery
Yes he is! Even Trump iswas!pErvinalia wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:57 amFollow who on Twitter? Surely Svarty's not technologically advanced enough to operate the Twitters.
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OK, for a summary, she strangled a pregnant woman and stole the viable fetus. She was arrested soon after and the baby given to the care of the father.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:46 amIt's unclear from your first paragraph whether she was pardoned or executed. I had to learn she was executed via other sources. Don't be like Cunt. We don't have a front row seat into your brain..
She was prosecuted in federal court under the charge of child kidnapping resulting in death. under a law that was passed after the Lindbergh baby kidnapping, where the kidnapper had murdered the kid. That law was never intended to cover the killing of anybody other than the abducted child.
For whatever reasons (and apparently due to her principal lawyer being an utter nincompoop) the jurisdiction and charge stuck, and all mitigating circumstances were bypassed and she was found guilty and sentenced to death. confirmed on appeal, and denied certiorari by the Nazgûl.
She spent most of the 2008 2020 period in a medical (I assume psychiatric) facility, being extracted only when frump decided to have her murdered.
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You'd be surprised to what lengths boredom drove me with the frigging tyrants putting me on home arrest and even denying me the solace of going out for coffee, drinks, or the occasional meal.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:57 amFollow who on Twitter? Surely Svarty's not technologically advanced enough to operate the Twitters.
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So two - count 'em TWO rounds of judges found her guilty and sentenced her to death, and Trump murdered her.
Ya, sounds reasonable.
I'm against death penalty, but I also recognize that is a luxury. Some poor countries don't have the resources to hold prisoners humanely, and have to kill them for public safety.
Ya, sounds reasonable.
I'm against death penalty, but I also recognize that is a luxury. Some poor countries don't have the resources to hold prisoners humanely, and have to kill them for public safety.
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Trump did it. Trump executions are Trump executions, Trump coronavirus is Trump coronavirus. Biden can only be blamed for vaccination disasters.
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Re: Lisa Montgomery
Porterfield and Vogelsang seem to have a reasonable handle on her story (especially before the crime, and current mental state)
The Guardian isn't any less sketchy than any other anti-Trump source, but what they write isn't all that unbelievable.
What's weird is that there aren't a whole lot more victims of this kind of abuse, who end up on death row. Maybe the usual victim of capitol punishment has less interesting demographics. This one is a vulnerable pretty lady who clearly had more crazy than malice.
Fitting legacy to shit social workers, lawyers, judges, mental health workers inside jails, her governor and Trump. I hope they ALL wear this shit, but more likely, it will only cost Montgomery.
The Guardian isn't any less sketchy than any other anti-Trump source, but what they write isn't all that unbelievable.
What's weird is that there aren't a whole lot more victims of this kind of abuse, who end up on death row. Maybe the usual victim of capitol punishment has less interesting demographics. This one is a vulnerable pretty lady who clearly had more crazy than malice.
Fitting legacy to shit social workers, lawyers, judges, mental health workers inside jails, her governor and Trump. I hope they ALL wear this shit, but more likely, it will only cost Montgomery.
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Re: Lisa Montgomery
Yes, indeed. Trump has the power to commute death sentences. Also, despite there being a death row, nobody has been executed for 17 years. In the seven months since July 14, 2020 Trump has ordered eleven executions.
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Re: Lisa Montgomery
Yup. People disagree on whether death penalties should happen at all. I think they shouldn't ever be 'state-killings'.
If the state does kill, it's hard for me to wrap my head around who they should, and who they should not, because of such a strong preference hat the state should not.
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