The Coronavirus Thread

[pErvinalia]

We don't need an ignore list to ignore your crackpot conspiracy theories.. :insane:

[rainbow]

If the Trump vaccines 'smallpox' it out of existence, then you can still pivot back to global warming will end it all, if we don't give money to a political group.

A rather ignorant statement.

[Cunt]

From 'Minds', this looked a bit weird, so I checked the link (usually don't) and the url said '150statscan' or something, so I doubt it is the official site. Looked convincing, though.

"There were fewer than fifty COVID-involved deaths among those under the age of 45."

"In fact, 100% of the COVID-involved deaths of Canadians under the age of 45 as of July 31 had at least one other disease or condition certified on the medical certificate of death. The proportion of those with at least one other disease or condition decreases with age, ranging from 93% for those aged 45 to 64 to 89% for those aged 85 years or older."

"the age profile of Canadians whose deaths involved COVID-19 over this period (54% were 85 years or older)" - My side note here, average life expectancy in Canada is 82.25 years. More than 50% of the dead had already lived at least 2.75 years longer than average.

" long-term care facilities and retirement homes accounted for more than 80% of all COVID-19 deaths in the country."

" Canadians aged 65 or older, who accounted for 94% of all COVID-involved deaths"

This indicates - beyond any opinions of Twitter doctors or politicians - that COVID is not deadly unless you have a combination of pre-existing conditions, advanced age, AND the unsanitary living conditions that are present in almost all long term care homes.

We have the usual idiots in my region. I expect a bunch of fuck-ups travelling, hugging family, and coming back. We've decided to take extra precautions, in the first weeks of 2021, when we expect a flood of stupid fucks bringing disease back.

Who are those 'stupid fucks', well, beloved friends and neighbours, most of whom have the good fortune to have the time off (with pay) and plenty of masks for the trip (usually one for everyone)

Those government workers and teachers (but I repeat myself) will be every bit as careful as horny fuckers during an AIDS epidemic.

I like them, but I'm hiding out a bit until probably the 15th or so, see how many cases spike.

[Cunt]

If the Trump vaccines 'smallpox' it out of existence, then you can still pivot back to global warming will end it all, if we don't give money to a political group.

A rather ignorant statement.

Silly of me to think they would re-use an old crisis. They'll probably start a new one.

Ooh! I've got it! Covid-accellerated climate change!

[rainbow]

If the Trump vaccines 'smallpox' it out of existence, then you can still pivot back to global warming will end it all, if we don't give money to a political group.

A rather ignorant statement.

Silly of me to think they would re-use an old crisis. They'll probably start a new one.

Ooh! I've got it! Covid-accellerated climate change!

Who are "they"?

Where can I join?

[Cunt]

If the Trump vaccines 'smallpox' it out of existence, then you can still pivot back to global warming will end it all, if we don't give money to a political group.

A rather ignorant statement.

Silly of me to think they would re-use an old crisis. They'll probably start a new one.

Ooh! I've got it! Covid-accellerated climate change!

Who are "they"?

Where can I join?

'They' are the ones who push a world panic, promising doom and gloom in ten years, then get Mr. Gore a beautiful beachfront property, from which to laugh at all the idiots who believed him.

'They' are the ones who would push a pandemic panic, by claiming that everyone who spreads it is a vile, ugly filthy uncaring monster who deserves to be exposed for their anti-social, destructive behaviour. During the AIDS crisis.

'They' are the ones using 'science' to push that same human division fairly consistently, now that I think of it.

Hope your holiday is full of hugs, good food and people who love you.

[Svartalf]

Nice bunch of cartoons Hermit.

[Tero]

Mutations list. Cause and effect is lacking in any of this, but likely the patient treated the longest allowed for mutations.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... th-africa/

[rainbow]

If the Trump vaccines 'smallpox' it out of existence, then you can still pivot back to global warming will end it all, if we don't give money to a political group.

A rather ignorant statement.

Silly of me to think they would re-use an old crisis. They'll probably start a new one.

Ooh! I've got it! Covid-accellerated climate change!

Who are "they"?

Where can I join?

'They' are the ones who push a world panic, promising doom and gloom in ten years, then get Mr. Gore a beautiful beachfront property, from which to laugh at all the idiots who believed him.

'They' are the ones who would push a pandemic panic, by claiming that everyone who spreads it is a vile, ugly filthy uncaring monster who deserves to be exposed for their anti-social, destructive behaviour. During the AIDS crisis.

'They' are the ones using 'science' to push that same human division fairly consistently, now that I think of it.

Nope, you tell me what they do. You don't say who "they" are.
Is it a club, a social group, a political party?

Please try harder.

Hope your holiday is full of hugs, good food and people who love you.

I don't celebrate these pagan feasts, I get those everyday, thank you for caring.

[Tero]

Pfizer vaccine. The DNA to RNA step still not clear to me. ecoli killed, no baby cells used.

Manufacturing
Pfizer is manufacturing the vaccine in its own facilities in a three-stage process. The first stage, conducted at a small pilot plant in St. Louis, involves the molecular cloning of DNA plasmids that code for the spike protein by infusing them into Escherichia coli bacteria. After four days of growth, the bacteria are killed and broken open, and the contents of their cells are purified over a week and a half to recover the desired DNA product. The DNA is stored in tiny bottles and frozen for shipment. Safely and quickly transporting the DNA at this stage is so important that Pfizer has used its company jet and helicopter to assist.[86]

The second stage is being conducted at plants in Andover, Massachusetts, and in Germany. The DNA is used as a template to build the desired mRNA strands. Once the mRNA has been created and purified, it is frozen in plastic bags about the size of a large shopping bag, of which each can hold up to 5 to 10 million doses. The bags are placed on special racks on trucks which take them to the next plant.[86]

The third stage is being conducted at plants in Kalamazoo, Michigan, and Puurs, Belgium. This stage involves combining the mRNA with lipid nanoparticles, then filling vials, boxing vials, and freezing them.[86] Croda International subsidiary Avanti Polar Lipids is providing the requisite lipids.[87] As of November 2020, the major bottleneck in the manufacturing process was combining mRNA with lipid nanoparticles.[86]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tozinameran#Composition

ref 86
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 ... facturing/

In Andover and Germany, scientists take the line of DNA and put it in an incubator with genetic building blocks to create messenger RNA.

The scientists then fill a special plastic bag with the purified messenger RNA and freeze it down. Each bag, about the size of a large shopping bag, contains enough for about 5 million to 10 million doses of vaccine. In Andover, the bag is hung on a special frame for handling and put on trucks to Kalamazoo.

The bags aren’t defrosted until everything is ready, because once they are, a clock starts ticking — the product has to be formulated and refrozen in under 72 hours, or it is wasted.

You don't just "make" RNA with DNA, you need cells or enzymes and RNA starting materials, nuclotides (triphosphates)

[Tero]

From PDF

Optimization of mRNA translation and stability
This topic has been extensively discussed in previous
reviews14,15; thus, we briefly summarize the key findings
(BOX 1). The 5ʹ and 3ʹ UTR elements flanking the coding
sequence profoundly influence the stability and translation of mRNA, both of which are critical concerns for
vaccines. These regulatory sequences can be derived
from viral or eukaryotic genes and greatly increase the

half-life and expression of therapeutic mRNAs23,24. A 5ʹ
cap structure is required for efficient protein production
from mRNA25. Various versions of 5ʹ caps can be added
during or after the transcription reaction using a vaccinia
virus capping enzyme26 or by incorporating synthetic cap
or anti-reverse cap analogues27,28. The poly(A) tail also
plays an important regulatory role in mRNA translation
and stability25; thus, an optimal length of poly(A)24 must
be added to mRNA either directly from the encoding
DNA template or by using poly(A) polymerase. The
codon usage additionally has an impact on protein
translation. Replacing rare codons with frequently used
synonymous codons that have abundant cognate tRNA
in the cytosol is a common practice to increase protein
production from mRNA29, although the accuracy of this
model has been questioned30. Enrichment of G:C content
constitutes another form of sequence optimization that
has been shown to increase steady-state mRNA levels
in vitro31 and protein expression in vivo12

Article has some pictures.
https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd.201 ... rigin=ppub

[Hermit]

Nice bunch of cartoons Hermit.

I thought so too, but then our member from Yellowknife pointed out that people use 'science' (note scare quotes) to push human division. What are a mere 340,000 deaths caused by the corona virus in less than a year, for instance? That is a scary statistic only because science worked out it would be a lot smaller if we slowed down the virus's spread by wearing masks when we go shopping or do other stuff that involves breathing on people.

And all this science done by climatologists is a scare tactic to get us to buy wind mills. The fact that Al Gore has a house on the coast is proof that global warming isn't happening. Or if it is, it's not doing much. Or if it is doing much, there's nothing we can do about it, so what's the point of worrying?

Science might just be the enemy of the people. Better do your own research at Parler University or Qanon College. Their information has the same aroma as anything else that they pull out of their arse, but being told there is no problem makes us feel good, and isn't that exactly what we need?

[Cunt]

Nice bunch of cartoons Hermit.

I thought so too, but then our member from Yellowknife pointed out that people use 'science' (note scare quotes) to push human division.

People use anything to push that division. Climate change, killer virus or skin-colour riots, they'll use whatever works.

Scientists are immune though, and NEVER gobble after funding. They ALWAYS pursue truth, just and right, and anyone who pays for their next grant is going to get the results they want.

Or they stop paying.

If you want to review the Great Barrington Declaration, you might see there is more than one scientific perspective on dealing with the worlds problem.

Of course, you might not have been told about it by your censored media.

Or you can just keep pretending you are 'right' all the time. I'm sure you are, to you.

I'll keep remembering how your bias shows, and use that to moderate how I value your information.

It's like looking at q-shitposters on instagram. I always check out the account 'stretchylicious' first, to help me remember how authoritative and smart the information is.

[JimC]

So, Cunt, where's your science degree from?

[Cunt]

So, Cunt, where's your science degree from?

Same place you got your manners, when dealing with those who disagree.

Have you read the Great Barrington Declaration? Or do you just swallow the product of corporate p-hacking?