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Post by Tero » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:44 pm

Of course the parts of Obamacare were planned to work together, to bring the cost to the taxpayer down. But still, the legsl thinking they have is weak. It's like saying an amendment to the constitution repeals the entire constitution.
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Post by Tero » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:40 pm

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And then, of course, there was the famous attempt to pack the court in 1937. Franklin Roosevelt, irritated that a conservative court kept striking down legislation aimed at reviving the economy during the Great Depression, proposed adding a slew of new justices under the guise of court reform. The effort technically failed — Congress never passed the legislation — though the court became more amenable to New Deal legislation in the sessions that followed.

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Post by Tero » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:50 am

Republicans participating
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Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:47 am

Everything's theater in our system. The impeachment was a joke, these hearings are a joke, democracy's a joke...what do these wankers expect to be the outcome? It's not sustainable.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:36 am

Careful Sean. When the revolution comes you don't want to be among the first up against the wall! :tea:
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Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:26 pm

...sick innit, all the clowns demanding they be led into an authoritarian theocracy. It'll be great!

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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:00 pm

In times of yore, perhaps only 30 years ago, political parties would be reluctant to enact laws or set constitutional precedents that might play into the hands of their political opponents. They wouldn't, for example, give ministers or appointed functionaries unlimited spending powers for example for fear of what the next administration might do with that kind of power. Nowadays, the Right seem not only sure that they're entitled to power, but absolutely certain that they'll always have their hand on the tiller. I suppose that something like the Repugs claiming automatic legitimacy for fast-tracking a unabashedly partisan nominee to the supreme court will leave any subsequent Democrat house with the legitimacy to do the same - and their only defence will be the hypocrisy of enacting a double-standard. In fact, we're probably there already with that one after the Repubs blocked all Democrat judicial nominees in the 18 months up to the 2016 election. How do these people not see that they're shooting themselves in the foot, unless, that is, they're absolutely assured that they'll always hold the reins of power?
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Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:12 pm

Because they don't have political opponents, they have spiritual opponents. Where you might see certain doom, they see a chance for God to step in and intervene on their behalf. They have faith that what they are doing is right in God's eyes.

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Also, some of them expect the conflict to destroy government. That's what they want.

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Post by Seabass » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:08 pm

The Republicans control the executive branch (and therefore the judicial branch) despite getting 3 million fewer votes. The Republicans control the Senate despite getting tens of millions fewer votes.

The Republicans do it because they can. They do it because they can be as extreme as they want to be and pay no price for it. They can be as crazy as they want to be and still keep winning. The anti-democratic nature of our "democracy" incentivises extremism on the right and moderation on the left. The Republicans keep chasing the most far right voters, and the Democrats keep chasing the center, and so the whole thing just keeps sliding right toward fascism.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:42 pm

I think you're both about right there guys. They have no skin in the game they're happy to make everybody else play. Either Jaysus or the market will vindicate them.
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Post by laklak » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:37 pm

It works both ways. If the Dems pack the court, you can bet the GOP will return the favor later. I already pity the next Dem President dealing with a GOP House, they'll be voting articles of impeachment regularly. What goes around comes around, sauces for ganders and geese, turnabout's fair play, etc etc etc. It ain't nothing new, y'all, this is the way shit works.
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Obamacare is set up to cover 2021. If the Trump court manages to cancel it, that would start 2022. Biden has a year to fix healthcare. 2 years to fix everything else, as GOP will grab some seats 2022.
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Post by Seabass » Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:58 am

Imagine how much better off we'd be if Congress had more Sheldon Whitehouses and fewer Gym Jordans.



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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Seabass » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:30 pm

Another monstrous Christian on the SCOTUS.

Amy Coney Barrett attacked for ‘cruelty’ over role in overturning prison inmate rape damages
“After a 19-year old pregnant prison inmate was repeatedly raped by a prison guard, Amy Coney Barrett ruled that the county responsible for the prison could not be held liable because the sexual assaults fell outside of the guard's official duties,”
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