The post corona virus thread.

[Cunt]

1 in 5 million is 0.2 in 1 million. At the moment The Netherlands coronavirus deaths stand around c.340 per million or, if we multiply it to match the chances of winning the Lotto, 1700 in 5 million.

Maths eh?

So Scot, why don't you want to talk about the spike in the mortality rate?

According to whose figures?
Your the one talking about the spike. How about the spike in 2018? There was no virus around then.

This is the perfect self-defeating argument.

You know, having collected some of the data he is so suspicious of, I can't help but accept his skepticism.

Of course, YOU feel free to trust my data more than I do, but your faith in me must be justified and reasonable.

[laklak]

Jebus didn't like the singing?

[NineBerry]

Jebus didn't like the singing?

There's no story in all of the new testament about anyone singing.

[JimC]

I'm sort of hoping for some Darwinian culling for those who insist that religious gatherings are immune to science...

[Scot Dutchy]

1 in 5 million is 0.2 in 1 million. At the moment The Netherlands coronavirus deaths stand around c.340 per million or, if we multiply it to match the chances of winning the Lotto, 1700 in 5 million.

Maths eh?

So Scot, why don't you want to talk about the spike in the mortality rate?

According to whose figures?
Your the one talking about the spike. How about the spike in 2018? There was no virus around then.

This is the perfect self-defeating argument.

You are comparing a one time lotto with a cumulative total. The lotto is on the 10th of every month so how many cases are there on that day? You cant tell. You only have cumulative totals. How cases are there? What was the genuine amount and not totals? How many are cured? It is so inaccurate.

[JimC]

Is the inaccuracy down to sinister and corrupt motives, incompetence or simply that (in your opinion) it is impossible to get accurate figures no matter hard the authorities try?

[Svartalf]

Jebus didn't like the singing?

There's no story in all of the new testament about anyone singing.

c'mon, there was the wedding at cana, and what's a wedding without songs?

[JimC]

It was mostly a piss-up, lots and lots of wine...

[Brian Peacock]

1 in 5 million is 0.2 in 1 million. At the moment The Netherlands coronavirus deaths stand around c.340 per million or, if we multiply it to match the chances of winning the Lotto, 1700 in 5 million.

Maths eh?

So Scot, why don't you want to talk about the spike in the mortality rate?

According to whose figures?
Your the one talking about the spike. How about the spike in 2018? There was no virus around then.

This is the perfect self-defeating argument.

You are comparing a one time lotto with a cumulative total.

You were the one who compared catching the virus to winning the Lotto.

The lotto is on the 10th of every month so how many cases are there on that day? You cant tell. You only have cumulative totals. How cases are there? What was the genuine amount and not totals? How many are cured? It is so inaccurate.

Now you're moving the goalposts because that blind assertion about the lotto was shown to be just that.

Don't pretend I'm asserting that the figures are 100% absolutely accurate in every regard, nor that this presumed 100% absolutely accurate information is the only basis on which to make rational policy decisions in the interest of public health. Societies have to make decisions like this on the basis of the information they have, and crowing on about how it isn't the full or true picture sounds like nihilistic excuses for inaction in circumstances where inaction results in not preventing preventable deaths. If you had the responsibility for the health of the public what would you do - let the virus go unchecked in order to generate base data by which to compare subsequent decisions?

So, being as you're now the authority on data gathering tell us what the errorbars in the data are - just how wrong are the numbers - and if your answer is that it's impossible to tell then you'll have also removed the ground from under your own argument and left yourself with nothing but, "Because, that's why," instead.

[Hermit]

Scott is using the same arguments the tobacco industry used to challenge the notion that smoking is harmful. E.g: Cigarettes don't kill people. Lung cancer does that. How do you know uncle Harry would not have got lung cancer if he were not a smoker? Granny May never smoked in her life, and she died from it too. Check mate, anti-smoking activists.

[Brian Peacock]

Yes, but that kind of obliges Scot to account for the massive mortality spike - but he moves on swiftly when pressed on that and if challenged further just disputes the possibility of us ever knowing anything about anything.

[Hermit]

...he moves on swiftly when pressed on that and if challenged further just disputes the possibility of us ever knowing anything about anything.

As I said...

[JimC]

You know, I've never seen Hermit and Brian Peacock in the same room at the same time!

[Hermit]

You know, I've never seen Hermit and Brian Peacock in the same room at the same time!

We can't stand the sight of each other. That's why!

[JimC]

(that's what you want us to think...)