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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by Svartalf » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:49 pm

I hope this pipeline does not get built, the prez should not use executive orders to get around laws, and I assume the Amerind complaint has merit.
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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:52 pm

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Is that really the government argument? They are trying to make the President a king aren't they?

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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:58 pm

Ah, the safest way to transport oil. It's only half an acre after all.

'Keystone pipeline spills more than 350,000 gallons of oil in North Dakota'
The Keystone pipeline has spilled hundreds of thousands of gallons of crude oil into North Dakota this week, The New York Times reports.

The pipeline has leaked roughly 383,000 gallons of crude oil, impacting an estimated half-acre of wetland, according to state environmental regulators.

The leak has been contained, according to Karl Rockeman, the director of the state Department of Environmental Quality's division of water quality.

"It is one of the larger spills in the state,” he told the Times.

He added that there are no homes near the site of the spill and the wetland that was impacted is not a source of drinking water. Pipeline owner TC Energy shut down the pipeline after the leak was detected.

Rockeman did not indicate whether cleanup of the spill had begun yet.

In a statement to the Times, TC Energy said it did not know the cause of the leak and that an internal investigation is underway.

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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by rainbow » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:58 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
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Ah, the safest way to transport oil. It's only half an acre after all.
Only 1.5 Ml - you bunny huggers moan about every little incident.
What about all the money lost by the oil company? :sulk:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:56 am

Pipeline owner TC Energy shut down the pipeline after the leak was detected.
That's good to know. :tea:
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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by rainbow » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:21 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:56 am
Pipeline owner TC Energy shut down the pipeline after the leak was detected.
That's good to know. :tea:
Yes hopefully it won't affect the bonusses of the top management. :thinks: Perhaps they could put in an insurance claim, or ask the government for a hand-out?
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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by Tero » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:25 pm

The pipeline companies owe nothing to the landowners after a spill. The contract may have some clauses about cleanups. But no payments other than the yearly rent they pay.
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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by rainbow » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:33 am

Tero wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:25 pm
The pipeline companies owe nothing to the landowners after a spill. The contract may have some clauses about cleanups. But no payments other than the yearly rent they pay.
They are lucky to get rent. Again these freeloaders are sucking the profits out of the corporations that make Um Erica Great.
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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by Tero » Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:56 pm

Trump signed some thing that says his pipeline does not need safety review. Started pipeline on US soil:
https://brookingsregister.com/article/c ... l-pipeline
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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by Tero » Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:29 am

Late last year, the U.S. District Court for the District of Montana ruled that the Trump administration violated several environmental laws by issuing a cross-border permit for Keystone XL without adequately evaluating critical information on the pipeline’s environmental impacts, including tar sands oil spills and climate change.

Although Trump effectively circumvented that ruling by issuing a new permit in March, the fact remains that the federal government has yet to fully evaluate the pipeline’s harmful environmental effects, as required by law.

“We are confident the court will again see the Trump administration's efforts for what they are: another illegal attempt to force a dangerous, Canadian tar sands pipeline through Montana ignoring threats to hundreds of waterways vital to our farmers, ranchers, and tribal communities,” said Dena Hoff, a Glendive, Mont., farmer and member of Northern Plains Resource Council. “TC Energy has repeatedly harmed rural communities, including with their 383,000 gallon spill only weeks ago in neighboring North Dakota's wetlands. Our communities can't afford the risks KXL poses to our irreplaceable resources.”
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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:56 am

Not Nebraska, but relevant, I think. Of course it will be appealed, and I think we know which way the decision will go if it gets to the US Supreme Court.

'"Huge Victory" for Standing Rock Sioux Tribe as Federal Court Rules DAPL Permits Violated Law'
A federal judge handed down a major victory for the Standing Rock Sioux tribe of North Dakota on Wednesday, ruling that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers violated the National Environmental Policy Act by approving federal permits for the Dakota Access Pipeline.

The USACE must complete a full environmental impact study of the pipeline, including full consideration of concerns presented by the Standing Rock Tribe, the judge ruled. The tribe has asked the court to ultimately shut the pipeline down.

The court chastised the USACE for moving ahead with affirming the permits in 2016 and allowing the construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL) crossing the Missouri River after President Donald Trump assumed office in 2017, without considering the expert analysis put forward by the tribe.

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Since Trump reversed former President Barack Obama's December 2016 order denying the permits and allowed the construction to be completed in June 2017, the tribe has challenged the permits and demanded the USACE conduct a full environmental analysis.

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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by Tero » Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:53 am

By: Jay Kohn
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The developer of the Keystone Xl pipeline has pushed back the construction date until later this month.

A TC Energy spokeswoman told MTN News Wednesday that construction on the pipeline crossing between the United States and Canada, did not get underway this morning as was previously anticipated.

Spokeswoman Sara Rabern described the situation as "fluid".

While she could not give an exact date on when that work will begin, she confirms it will happen this month.

Rabern said the planned activity will focus on the 1.4 mile stretch of federal Bureau of Land Management property land that the border crosses. She could not say how many workers might be involved, or for how long.

On Tuesday, TC Energy announced the Keystone Pipeline project has new life - thanks to a $1 billion investment from the government of Alberta that will fund the project for the next year.

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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by Tero » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:53 am

The Canadian company clearly has nothing else to do. oil prices are such that tar sands oil is worthless. They would build this pipe line and not use for several years.
https://www.1011now.com/content/news/Wo ... 32601.html
A hearing on the request to block work is scheduled for April 16 before U.S. District Judge Brian Morris in Great Falls.

Keystone XL was rejected twice under former President Barack Obama because of concerns it would make climate change worse. President Donald Trump revived the project and later pushed through approval after Morris issued an order to block construction in 2018.

Morris in December denied an initial request to block construction because TC Energy said at the time no work was immediately planned.

Stephan Volker, an attorney for the environmental groups asking Morris to again intervene, said the company’s decision to “jump the gun” before next week’s hearing was an insult to the judge.

“We are confident the court will not be bullied, and will overturn President Trump’s second approval, just as he overturned President Trump’s first approval, as unlawful,” Volker said.
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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by Tero » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:20 pm

Go ahead for Minnesota pipeline, as well as other states given.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2 ... regulators
No work willstart this year, and Biden willcancel the whole tar sands business.
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
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