All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:20 pm

Should be the non-educated.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:58 pm

I wish a lack of education explained it. I'd like to stop wondering about it now, thanks.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:10 pm

I think this article would have triggered a cataract of specious verbiage from a certain Trump defence counsel manque. Many pixels have been given a reprieve!

'Mueller Missed the Crime: Trump’s Campaign Coordinated With Russia'
Ever since the release of the Mueller Report, countless commentators have implored everyone to just #ReadtheReport. The problem is not who is reading it—the problem is the report itself, and its many errors.

Robert Mueller made a significant legal error and, based on the facts he found, he should have identified Trump campaign felonies. Mueller’s errors meant that, first, he failed to conclude that the Trump campaign criminally coordinated with Russia; second, he failed to indict campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his deputy Rick Gates for felony campaign coordination (see in a concise timeline below); third, the 10 acts of felony obstruction in Volume II fell flat among the general public because it lacked compelling context of these underlying crimes between the campaign and Russia. On top of these errors, the former special counsel said he deliberately wrote the report to be unclear because it would be unfair to make clear criminal accusations against a president.

The bottom line is that the Mueller Report is a failure not because of Congress or because of public apathy, but because it failed to get the law, the facts, or even the basics of writing right. When Mueller testifies before Congress on July 17, he should be pressed on all of this.

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Mueller should have concluded that both Manafort and Gates engaged in felony campaign coordination, and he should have indicted Manafort for it. Manafort is a lawyer with decades of experience working for presidential campaigns: it would be less difficult to establish “knowing and willful” violations. And Manafort’s extraordinary record of lying to prosecutors—and coordinating his lies with Trump’s lawyers—would help prove the case as an inference of consciousness of guilt. In the very least, Mueller should have explicitly stated that there was substantial evidence of illegal coordination, even if it was insufficient for a criminal prosecution.

Members of Congress should [...] ask tough questions of Mueller: Why did you ignore the law of campaign coordination, which was clearly established by Congress and the FEC, and thoroughly upheld in broad terms by the Supreme Court? Did your failure to identify the correct legal standard limit your investigation of Manafort, Gates, Stone, and Trump? If you knew of these rules, why did you fail to identify this coordination as illegal once you found it?

Mueller’s failures and omissions have another round of dangerous cause-and-effect. He is opening the loophole that Congress was purposely trying to avoid, and he is telling all the 2020 campaigns that these rules will not be enforced. Now Trump and his aides seem to think they have legal permission to openly do all of it again. Rudy Giuliani flagrantly tested these coordination rules in his political contacts with Ukraine officials. Given Mueller’s failure and Trump’s exploitation of that failure, it is now Congress’s duty to the public, the candidates under investigation, and future candidates to identify the law clearly, and to explain that some of this behavior was a civil violation, and in fact a criminal violation.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:16 pm

"Did my failure to identify the correct legal standard limit my investigation?"

--are you an idiot?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:27 pm

Trump and Barr announce: supreme court decisions do not apply to the president

Trump expected to order citizenship question added to the census
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... s-n1028656

and by the way, the election is also cancelled. It would end in an embarrassing way for Trump.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:19 pm

Old man feeling sad and lonely. Invents even about himself since he can't block twitter users:
Trump news – live: President endorses far-right leaders then hails himself as 'great looking and smart' in bizarre Twitter tirade
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Post by Tero » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:26 pm

:funny:
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:31 pm

Maybe we should all leave rats and join Twitter together? --just saying
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:37 pm

It's a strange world. There are hobby and band groups. But you are never yourself in twitter. You are the equivalent of a pimple on a celebrity's butt.

I will leave it once the 2020 election is over. Though over in that case may drag on.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:38 pm

:lol:
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:40 pm

Trump to quit fighting courts in ONE issue?
President Donald Trump is expected to announce later Thursday he is backing down from his effort to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census, and will instead take executive action that instructs the Commerce Department to obtain an estimate of U.S. citizenship through other means, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Seabass » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:01 pm

The classiest president ever, folks. That I can tell you.
Trump’s Florida resort hosting golf tournament for unregistered charity with strippers as ‘caddy girls’
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/trumps ... ddy-girls/

President Donald Trump’s Doral, Florida resort is forgetting about family values and holding a stripper-fueled golf tournament Saturday.

Washington Post reporter David Fahrenthold broke the news Tuesday that a Miami-area strip club will allow golfers to pay to buy a dancer to serve as a “caddy girl” while they golf.

The “Shadow All Star Tournament” is hosted by a club called Shadow Cabaret in Hialeah, an area northwest of downtown Miami.

“The Trump name and family crest are displayed prominently in the strip club’s advertising materials, which offer golfers the ‘caddy girl of your choice,'” Fahrenthold observed.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:04 pm

Tero wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:40 pm
Trump to quit fighting courts in ONE issue?
President Donald Trump is expected to announce later Thursday he is backing down from his effort to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census, and will instead take executive action that instructs the Commerce Department to obtain an estimate of U.S. citizenship through other means, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
ABC
That issue looks like a distraction to me.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:13 pm

trump twitter assholery.jpg
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by JimC » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:48 pm

Seabass wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:01 pm
The classiest president ever, folks. That I can tell you.
Trump’s Florida resort hosting golf tournament for unregistered charity with strippers as ‘caddy girls’
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/trumps ... ddy-girls/

President Donald Trump’s Doral, Florida resort is forgetting about family values and holding a stripper-fueled golf tournament Saturday.

Washington Post reporter David Fahrenthold broke the news Tuesday that a Miami-area strip club will allow golfers to pay to buy a dancer to serve as a “caddy girl” while they golf.

The “Shadow All Star Tournament” is hosted by a club called Shadow Cabaret in Hialeah, an area northwest of downtown Miami.

“The Trump name and family crest are displayed prominently in the strip club’s advertising materials, which offer golfers the ‘caddy girl of your choice,'” Fahrenthold observed.
I guess the golfers will be looking for a hole in one... :tea:
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