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Post by Hermit » Thu May 16, 2019 9:41 am

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greens, you're crazy as a loon, those guys are dangerous antigrowth fanatics... with them, the availability of power will dwindle while the prices soar.
You're full of surprises. I did not expect you to be informed about the federal policies of the Australian Greens.

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Post by JimC » Thu May 16, 2019 9:43 am

Everybody seems to be doing the early voting thing this time. I'm a traditionalist, I'll vote on Saturday. Not that it will matter, we're in a blue ribbon Liberal seat...
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 16, 2019 9:45 am

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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 16, 2019 9:47 am

Svartalf wrote:greens, you're crazy as a loon, those guys are dangerous antigrowth fanatics... with them, the availability of power will dwindle while the prices soar.
The Greens are the only true progressive party here in Australia, although the current Labor party is as left as it has been since before Paul Keating as treasure in the 80's.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 16, 2019 10:14 am

their notion of 'progress' is dangerous, they see wilderness as more important than their constituents... that or they are not truely green.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 16, 2019 10:17 am

Rubbish. They are what the general left was in the 80's.
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Post by Hermit » Thu May 16, 2019 10:23 am

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their notion of 'progress' is dangerous, they see wilderness as more important than their constituents... that or they are not truely green.
You still haven't read the Australian Greens' policies, have you?

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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 16, 2019 10:26 am

not quite yet... Ill look for it soon, granted, I judge them from European Greens.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 16, 2019 10:30 am

You've also got to remember that we have preferential voting, so I'm not necessarily voting for the government with my first preference. If I was, I'd have to think a bit harder about it.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 16, 2019 10:33 am

Well, to start with , their energy policy does not seem very realistic, renewables provide power when the weather wills it, not when it's actually needed, and we lack the technology for efficient stocking of energy.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 16, 2019 10:35 am

Rubbish. Battery technology and pumped hydro are better options than coal for stable electricity delivery.
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Post by Hermit » Thu May 16, 2019 10:48 am

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Well, to start with , their energy policy does not seem very realistic, renewables provide power when the weather wills it, not when it's actually needed, and we lack the technology for efficient stocking of energy.
What exactly is unrealistic about the Australian Greens' energy policy? I've searched for the bit where they announced their policy of abolishing fossil fuel based energy production faster than provision for baseloads by renewables can replace them, but I can't seem to find it. Can you help me out, or have you still not read up on what you're talking about?

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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 16, 2019 10:53 am

massive dependance on so cwellalled renewable energy sources... until we have massive stocking cabacity, so that the energy generated while there is little need can be redirected to fullfill demand when there is no generation going (say, solar panels when there's a boost of demand at night)... something is off
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Svartalf wrote:
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massive dependance on so cwellalled renewable energy sources... until we have massive stocking cabacity, so that the energy generated while there is little need can be redirected to fullfill demand when there is no generation going (say, solar panels when there's a boost of demand at night)... something is off
Quote the relevant statement from the link I provided. Again: I've searched for the bit where they announced their policy of abolishing fossil fuel based energy production faster than provision for baseloads by renewables can replace them, but I can't seem to find it. Can you help me out, or have you still not read up on what you're talking about?

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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 16, 2019 10:57 am

I think 100% by 2030 is possibly optimistic. But it should be possible to have a large majority (80-90%) by then, with the rest coming from gas generators.
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