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Walls, They Are Ineffective At Keeping People Out

Post by Forty Two » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:48 pm

San Diego TV station: CNN declined our 'local view' because of reports on wall effectiveness https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4248 ... ts-on-wall
A San Diego television station on Thursday said that CNN had asked for a "local view" and then "declined to hear from us" after past reports from the station showed that a border wall was effective.
"Thursday morning, CNN called the KUSI Newsroom asking if one of our reporters could give them a local view of the debate surrounding the border wall and government shutdown," a report by KUSI, an independent station in San Diego that began airing in 1982, begins.

"KUSI offered our own Dan Plante, who has reported dozens of times on the border, including one story from 2016 that was retweeted by former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, and posted on DrudgeReport.com," it continues while linking to a border fence tour report.

"We believe CNN declined a report from KUSI because we informed them that most Border Patrol Agents we have spoken to told us the barrier does in fact work," it concludes. "We have continuously been told by Border Patrol Agents that the barrier along the Southern border helps prevent illegal entries, drugs, and weapons from entering the United States, and the numbers prove it."
Which, of course, is counterintuitive, because, we all know from a lifetime of experience that walls are ineffective at discouraging or resisting human beings from entering walled-off areas. They may as well not be there.
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Post by BarnettNewman » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:38 pm

3 found shot dead in luxury home in Texas gated community: report | Fox News
A San Antonio man found the woman he had been dating and two teenage girls shot dead inside a luxury home within a gated community where they all lived, reports said.

Investigators in Bexar County said the two teenagers appeared to have been murdered. Family members identified the woman as 37-year-old Nichol Olsen, the San Antonio Express-News reported. Authorities are working to determine if she was killed or committed suicide.

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Post by Hermit » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:29 am

BarnettNewman wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:38 pm
3 found shot dead in luxury home in Texas gated community: report | Fox News
A San Antonio man found the woman he had been dating and two teenage girls shot dead inside a luxury home within a gated community where they all lived, reports said.

Investigators in Bexar County said the two teenagers appeared to have been murdered. Family members identified the woman as 37-year-old Nichol Olsen, the San Antonio Express-News reported. Authorities are working to determine if she was killed or committed suicide.
What's your argument? No point in having walls because they are not 100% effective? That's about as moronic as opposing gun control laws because they don't prevent 100% of all unlawful and accidental killings. I took you for better than that.

Don't mistake my comment as support for a coast to coast wall. I think with today's technologies more effective and far cheaper ways of minimising illegal crossings can be devised for much of the border.
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Post by laklak » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:33 am

Hunter killer drones. 10 mile wide kill zone. Anyone who gets through goes in front of Judge Dredd.

I tell ya, put me in charge of the world and I'll sort this shit out in short order.
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Post by BarnettNewman » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:12 am

Hermit wrote:
BarnettNewman wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:38 pm
3 found shot dead in luxury home in Texas gated community: report | Fox News
A San Antonio man found the woman he had been dating and two teenage girls shot dead inside a luxury home within a gated community where they all lived, reports said.

Investigators in Bexar County said the two teenagers appeared to have been murdered. Family members identified the woman as 37-year-old Nichol Olsen, the San Antonio Express-News reported. Authorities are working to determine if she was killed or committed suicide.
What's your argument? No point in having walls because they are not 100% effective? That's about as moronic as opposing gun control laws because they don't prevent 100% of all unlawful and accidental killings. I took you for better than that.

Don't mistake my comment as support for a coast to coast wall. I think with today's technologies more effective and far cheaper ways of minimising illegal crossings can be devised for much of the border.
I apologize. I didn’t know we were taking this thread seriously.

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Post by Hermit » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:19 am

BarnettNewman wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:12 am
Hermit wrote:
BarnettNewman wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:38 pm
3 found shot dead in luxury home in Texas gated community: report | Fox News
A San Antonio man found the woman he had been dating and two teenage girls shot dead inside a luxury home within a gated community where they all lived, reports said.

Investigators in Bexar County said the two teenagers appeared to have been murdered. Family members identified the woman as 37-year-old Nichol Olsen, the San Antonio Express-News reported. Authorities are working to determine if she was killed or committed suicide.
What's your argument? No point in having walls because they are not 100% effective? That's about as moronic as opposing gun control laws because they don't prevent 100% of all unlawful and accidental killings. I took you for better than that.

Don't mistake my comment as support for a coast to coast wall. I think with today's technologies more effective and far cheaper ways of minimising illegal crossings can be devised for much of the border.
I apologize. I didn’t know we were taking this thread seriously.
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Post by Joe » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:08 pm

This needed higher walls. The owner was killed by foreigners who crossed the border illegally.

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And OP, this is intended as humor, so spare us a wall of pedantry. :biggrin:
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Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:16 pm

Fuck the wall, we need a dome.

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Post by Animavore » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:34 pm

You need to move to space. It's the only way to be sure.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:09 pm

You need a sort of sonic fence that obliterates anything that passes through it.
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Post by Jason » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:29 pm

Satellites in geosynchronous orbit over the US-Mexico border than can drop ordinance on the illegals. It's the only way to be sure.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:37 pm

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Post by laklak » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:04 am

They're not just thick, they're succulent...
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by Rum » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:51 am

Hadrian’s wall is just up the road from me. It didn’t keep kilted bastits out very long!

Actually although it seems to have had a defensive role, it was probably as important as a trading and tax piece of infrastructure.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:21 am

The Antonine Wall is not far from me.
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