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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:26 pm

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Gig where the Soul Giants turned into The Mothers was at the Broadside in Pomona. They might have got a few less gigs from that point, as they were a covers band up to that point
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Post by Tero » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:07 pm

There were four original Mothers – Ray Collins, Jim Black, Roy Estrada and myself. We starved for about ten months because we were playing a type of music that was grossly unpopular in that area. They couldn't identify with it.

So we got into the habit of insulting the audience. We made a big reputation that way. Nobody came to hear us play, they came in to see how much abuse they could take. They were very masochistic. They loved it.

We managed to get jobs on that basis but it didn't last very long because we'd eventually wind up abusing the owner of the club.

Then we decided we were going to the big city – Los Angeles – which was about thirty miles away.

We had added a girl to the group, Alice Stuart. She played guitar very well and sang well.

Then we got Henry Vestine who is one of the most outstanding blues guitarists on any coast. He's really a monster. He was part of the group for quite some time. But our music kept getting progressively stranger and he couldn't identify with what we were doing and he wanted his freedom, so we said, 'Goodbye, Henry' and he split. He's in Canned Heat now.

Then Ray, the lead vocalist, quit and there were three Mothers. We hired Jim Guercio, who now manages Chad & Jeremy and produces records for the Buckinghams. He was part of our group for a while.

Also, somewhere along the line, we had hired Steve Mann, who is also one of the top blues guitarists on the West Coast. He wanted to play in the group but he couldn't make the changes and we got rid of him.

Then we hired Elliot Ingber and Ray came back in the band and there were five Mothers. We cut our first album with those five- Rag, Roy, Jim, Elliot and myself.
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I had known Don Preston and Bunk Gardner several years before I met the other guys. We used to play experimental music a long time ago. We got together in garages and went through some very abstract charts and just entertained ourselves.
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:50 pm

Sinister Footwear. There are band versions, this is the only classical type recording. The picture is wrong. Kent Nagano conducted
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And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
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Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:11 pm

Po-Jama People:
Paul Colbert, "Frank Zappa", Musicians Only, 1/28/80, p.18. Cherry Ripe, "Frank Zappa Has No Underwear", New Musical Express, 4/17/76.
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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:01 pm

A music book transcribed years ago by Ian Underwood. A Zappa forum on FB had a lounge piano player inserting these into his coctail lounge set. They are are rather useless for the guitarist, other than the rhythm guitar part.
Hal Leonard has Sofa in the One Size fits all voice paino and guitar book. Should be playable on piano.
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And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
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Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:20 pm

This is very well done
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And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
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Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:30 pm

Though he is a bit heavy handed. I put a better one at Ratz fb page.
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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:30 am

It was some software playing a midi file.
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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:32 pm

Zappa and Ray Collins put out some R and B singles from PAL studios, known for some surf group singles. Zappa and Ray Collins put together the song for local musicians. Zappa plays guitar
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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:50 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:30 am
It was some software playing a midi file.
yeah I thought of that later, as it showed the sheet music.
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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:25 am

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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:23 pm

For Rum
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
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And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
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Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:32 pm

https://esapolitics.blogspot.com
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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Post by Rum » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:44 pm

That's lovely. Note and timing perfect. A great version.

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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:29 pm

I have never enjoyed audience recordings nuch. Bad sound. But if you can find Beat the Boots, it includes thecasinobfire concert:
Disc one: Swiss Cheese

"Zanti Serenade" – 14:21
"Peaches En Regalia" – 3:27
"Tears Began to Fall/She Painted Up Her Face/Half-a-Dozen Provocative Squats" – 5:59
"Call Any Vegetable" – 9:55
"Any Way the Wind Blows" – 3:44
Disc Two: Fire!

"Magdalena/Dog Breath" – 9:49
"Sofa" – 18:06
"A Pound for a Brown (On the Bus)" – 7:07
"Wonderful Wino/Sharleena/Cruisin' for Burgers" – 12:37
"King Kong" – 1:24
"Fire!" – 1:55
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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