The Thread of Democrats

[Hermit]

What the Democrat responders probably meant by "socialism" was government working in the interests of the people rather than just 1% of them...

Yabbut trickledown, remember. What's good for the 1% is good for all. Eventually, some of the increase in wealth drops down for the benefit of the workers. John Kenneth Galbraith remembered it as the horse-and-sparrow theory: If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows.

[Sean Hayden]

He's still running with the "enemy of the people" line. Dangerous idiot.

It definitely feels like the biggest gamble we've taken. Can we make it to the next election? Does it even matter if we do? What are our plans for plugging the leak and stopping future attempts to bring us down?

Just what the fuck have these clowns got on us man? It's as if our enemies have taken over the show and the only people left to fight for us are middle management types who haven't figured out the new boss is definitely not the same as the old...

[Forty Two]

...the nation's education system, which regularly shovels out left-wing economic ideas ... the leadership of the party has veered further to the left, and the activist wing has succeeded in driving out most of the remaining centrists. ... Democrats are favored to take control of the House after the November midterms, bringing these leftists into positions of power. ... the increasingly extremist Democratic Party

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... tic-party/

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... io-cortez/

the "center" of the Democratic Party had moved dramatically to left. ... the increasingly harsh and often violent rhetoric coming from Democrats ... the coronation of socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez — the veil has been lifted. ... Far-left Sen. Elizabeth Warren ... socialist Bernie Sanders ... socialist Ocasio-Cortez ... an increasingly left-wing bubble, extremism can easily start to look mainstream. ... an increasing leftist media, an aggressively left-wing base

I have noticed your commentary has become increasingly shrill and hysterical over time, and especially so in the past two or three weeks. The articles you linked to here are exemplary of your underlying fear. You are increasingly fearful that the sky is about to fall on the land of the free, and desperate to the point of begging your compatriots not to vote Democrat. You're not far off panicking, and I begin to see the possibility that you'll lose your mind completely and do something horrific and headline grabbing.

That's the left talking. I'm not "in fear." That's projection. It's the left side that talks about being "horrified" and "terrified" and "scared" and the like over the Trump administration.

I was asked about Democrats and Socialism. I posted a lot of detail - accurate detail. The party is lurching hard to the left. It's not as if the left has won the day, and the US is past the point of no return. However, I oppose that politics and that economics, with every fiber of my being. I think it's damaging, it's oppressive, and it's injurious to the common man, and it harms the greater good.

I am not imagining the polls that say 57% of Democrats view socialism favorably. I am not imagining that socialist candidates are beginning to see it as a way to get elected, and not a slur to run from. They have every right to be socialists, and advocate socialism, etc. And, I have every right to oppose their point of view. I can only hope that enough people see the light that we don't go that way as a matter of national policy.

[Cunt]

I have noticed your commentary has become increasingly shrill and hysterical over time, and especially so in the past two or three weeks. The articles you linked to here are exemplary of your underlying fear. You are increasingly fearful that the sky is about to fall on the land of the free, and desperate to the point of begging your compatriots not to vote Democrat. You're not far off panicking, and I begin to see the possibility that you'll lose your mind completely and do something horrific and headline grabbing.

I call this 'doing the Rum', after one of our illustrious, shrill and hysterical posters, who accuses others of mental health issues whenever he thinks it will score him points in 'discussion'.

I would rather leave my dog, home or firearms in the safe-keeping of Forty Two, over either of you.

Accusations of madness make both of you look weak, and desperate. Congrats on that.

[Sean Hayden]

Because there are no madmen, no nazis, no fascists, no racists, just people who don't understand each other and of course the one true threat to the world, liberals.

That sounds reasonable. Don't think that's what you're doing? Then tell me who's mad, who's a racist, a fascist, a threat?

[Cunt]

Because there are no madmen, no nazis, no fascists, no racists, just people who don't understand each other and of course the one true threat to the world, liberals.

That sounds reasonable. Don't think that's what you're doing? Then tell me who's mad, who's a racist, a fascist, a threat?

By the current definitions, everyone fits the bill of 'racist', or 'fascist' or 'a threat', don't they? (depending on who is using the language)

To me, using the English I learned, South Korea is a racists state, as is Saudi Arabia. (plenty of other examples, but I'll stick with those for now).

I would say it's enough to address it in law. I don't care particularly, if you are a racist. I hope you have a good life, even if you are. (because that is what is best for me/my community). I do care about racist policies.

Who is a fascist? I don't know enough about what the word means, but many call Trump a fascist...while carrying signs saying so, showing their face, revealing their identity to a fascist. Nothing bad happens to them. They leave their 'protest venue' covered in discarded signs, pussy hats and starbucks cups, then go back to their lives.

What is a threat? Um...it isn't calling you names. Not even if you are a minority. Threats are threats. Namecalling is namecalling. There seems to be an effort to make one sound like another, which I disagree with.

[Sean Hayden]

Because there are no madmen, no nazis, no fascists, no racists, just people who don't understand each other and of course the one true threat to the world, liberals.

That sounds reasonable. Don't think that's what you're doing? Then tell me who's mad, who's a racist, a fascist, a threat?

By the current definitions, everyone fits the bill of 'racist', or 'fascist' or 'a threat', don't they? (depending on who is using the language)

To me, using the English I learned, South Korea is a racists state, as is Saudi Arabia. (plenty of other examples, but I'll stick with those for now).

I would say it's enough to address it in law. I don't care particularly, if you are a racist. I hope you have a good life, even if you are. (because that is what is best for me/my community). I do care about racist policies.

Who is a fascist? I don't know enough about what the word means, but many call Trump a fascist...while carrying signs saying so, showing their face, revealing their identity to a fascist. Nothing bad happens to them. They leave their 'protest venue' covered in discarded signs, pussy hats and starbucks cups, then go back to their lives.

What is a threat? Um...it isn't calling you names. Not even if you are a minority. Threats are threats. Namecalling is namecalling. There seems to be an effort to make one sound like another, which I disagree with.

No, everyone doesn't fit the bill of racist or fascist or a threat. But I do get the impression that many people frustrated by the sometimes crazy left have decided that's true. Look, I think there's a chance that you and I aren't that far apart on a lot of issues. What I see is that you're very angry with the far left, and with 1st world SJWs in particular. A lot of the time I am too. They think they're smarter than everyone else, they believe that rather than just having a different set of principals the other guy is genuinely bad, and they believe that way too often to be taken seriously.

But let's not go crazy just to counter them! Does some professor with unpopular views deserve to be hounded out of his job for expressing them? In nearly all cases probably not. But should we put him and say, Trump, in the same group? Or the professor and say White Nationalists leaders in the same group? I hope not, because if the professor's unpopular views are just Trump rhetoric, or White Nationalists propaganda, then he loses my sympathy, right? I mean Trump isn't just expressing unpopular views, he's at the very least reckless as fuck. --ditto the White Nationalists. Those guys are bad dude, like, for real.

[Cunt]

I doubt we are that far apart. Except that I don't think of 'white' as an insult, any more than I would think of 'black' or 'female' or 'french' as insults.

Nationalists? I get that it is a group of some kind, but is it a problem to love your nation? To want to secure its success?

What the hell is with the language? It's fuckity. I grew up loving all the left, and blinked sometime in the last 10 years and they became 'atheism +' and the new moral majority.

[pErvinalia]

A tiny fraction of the left did. Don't exaggerate.

[Seabass]

Didn't Atheism Plus fizzle out like five or six years ago? Why are these two still so terrified of them?

[laklak]

Yeah they imploded, which was a shame. It was a howler.

[pErvinalia]

Apparently we (us leftist scum) are all secret apelusters here...

[laklak]

Yeah but you're our leftist scum. Besides, y'all couldn't match Apelusters if you ate a pound of shrooms and watched back to back Ronald Reagan movies.

[pErvinalia]

Yeah but you're our leftist scum.

[Forty Two]

Because there are no madmen, no nazis, no fascists, no racists, just people who don't understand each other and of course the one true threat to the world, liberals.

That sounds reasonable. Don't think that's what you're doing? Then tell me who's mad, who's a racist, a fascist, a threat?

Not "liberals." Progressives. There is a difference. Their political and economic positions are damaging and contrary to the greater good.