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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:30 pm

Marque Coy (Marqueson) was Frank' Monitor engineer. And later Joe's Garage studio sound boss.
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Marque told me that this song had another working title (I've since forgotten what he told me dammit) but one night on the 82 tour, as the band was coming back to do encores, Marque had hung a rubber chicken on one of the mic stands during the break. As the band came back out, they saw it, and the song became Marqueson's Chicken.
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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:03 am

”She carried on without a comma,
That she was someone I should know”

I put the comma in. :D
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Post by Rum » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:18 pm

She also had a Mendicino beano if memory serves...

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Post by Forty Two » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:14 pm

“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Rum » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:19 pm

Pretty mean post. Zappa was a bit of a cunt - no doubt about it. Sexist as fuck too - misogynistic even.

His music transcends all of that.

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Post by Forty Two » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:23 pm

"Drop out of school before your mind rots from exposure to our mediocre educational system." - Frank Zappa.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Rum » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:31 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:23 pm
"Drop out of school before your mind rots from exposure to our mediocre educational system." - Frank Zappa.
Well he had a lot of good stuff to say. He hated American popular culture and politics. But he was a man who grew up in the 50s after all.

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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:38 pm

His fans have always put me off his music. No offense Rum, and I know better. :hehe:

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Post by Rum » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:40 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:38 pm
His fans have always put me off his music. No offense Rum, and I know better. :hehe:
I wasn't aware there was a Zappa fan 'type'. Here in the UK I only know a couple and they seem as decent and likeable as me. :biggrin:

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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:44 pm

I identify with his view on the American educational system. I am trying to innoculate my kids against school, and hopefully I will have the wherewithal to make sure they don't have to spend much time in the public system (in the US we call the state run schools "public").

Viewing the system as it is, it seems as if nothing could hardly crush a child's spirit and desire for learning than the current public school system. Rows of kids being indoctrinated, shoved into categories, placed on "tracks" and little regard given for actual learning.

I've seen the evolution since the 1970s. The curriculum is dumbed down. Useful courses eliminated. Increased rigidity and reduced individuality. Reduced independence and independent though. If Zappa hated the system in the 60s and 70s, then I submit he would be positively sickened by what we have today.
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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:47 pm

:lol: you're joking Rum. Google zappa fans suck and free yourself...

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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Rum » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:25 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:47 pm
:lol: you're joking Rum. Google zappa fans suck and free yourself...
That's bull. If you type in 'Beatles fans suck' you get as many links. The man was a phenomenon but the less knowledgeable and creatively minded, musically speaking just don't get him it seems. :biggrin:

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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:31 pm

:lol: I know, I know.

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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:04 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:23 pm
"Drop out of school before your mind rots from exposure to our mediocre educational system." - Frank Zappa.
His kids took the hs equivalency test at 15 and passed.
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Re: The Frank Zappa thread

Post by Tero » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:07 pm

Zappa had mostly stuff to say about Republicans and televangelists. But then Tipper Gore wanted to put warning labels on his CDs.
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
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And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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