Israeli Apartheid and the UK's Complicity

[Rum]

It is worth remembering that the impetus for the formation of a 'home' (not a State) goes back much earlier and is sometimes thought to originate in the desire to gain American (Jewish) support for WW1.

[Jason]

By their own lights there are two kinds of people in this world: Gentiles and Jews.

So... I'm wondering how much responsibility the world bears for their "alienation" from "Gentile" society.

[Rum]

Nearly all of it. Don’t be a fuckwit.

[Strontium Dog]

You're the fucking racist Strontium Dog. Arabs are from Arabia and have no claim on the land? Fuck off. Seriously. Fuck off.

Where did I say they had no claim on the land? Don't put words in my mouth, then claim I'm a racist based off your invention, you stupid fuck.

[Strontium Dog]

Thanks for giving us permission to start slowly reclaiming Northern Ireland and pushing the Prods into ghettos.

You make it sound like that hasn't happened already.

What's that got to do with anything? The Palestinians aren't Arabs.

Well, they very clearly are. Not least because they self-identify as Arabs.

The United Nations had no right either. No one consulted the people living there. I sure as fuck know you Brits don't like it if someone else tries to take your sovereignty (real or percieved).

I love how you say "you Brits" when you know full well I am a dual British/Irish national. It's so funny.

As it happens, I was sent this article today which demonstrates that the Irish themselves don't exactly have a squeaky clean history where persecuting people is concerned.

http://www.patrickcomerford.com/2017/07 ... ry-of.html

The last Jew buried in that Limerick cemetery was my father's eldest brother.

[Jason]

Arabs are from Arabia originally. Clue is in the name. And regardless of anything else, Jews are also undeniably genetically Middle Eastern.

Where did I say they had no claim on the land? Don't put words in my mouth, then claim I'm a racist based off your invention, you stupid fuck.

It was implicit in your argument. You're implicitly asserting that Jews have a claim on the lands in question because they're "Middle Eastern," and then implicitly dismissing the Palestinians as "Arabs" from "Arabia."

Or am I misconstruing the basis of your argument? Please clarify.


















You stupid fuck.

[Strontium Dog]

Nobody going to answer this? An inconvenient truth, I imagine.

After the re-establishment of Israel, Jews were forced out of Arab lands, leaving behind land covering an area four times the size of Israel. Shouldn't that land be returned to the Jews, since it actually was stolen from them? Or does that not count, because Jews?

[Jason]

Nobody going to answer this? An inconvenient truth, I imagine.

After the re-establishment of Israel, Jews were forced out of Arab lands, leaving behind land covering an area four times the size of Israel. Shouldn't that land be returned to the Jews, since it actually was stolen from them? Or does that not count, because Jews?

Explain to me why the "Jews" get special treatment in this regard. They are not unique.

[Strontium Dog]

Arabs are from Arabia originally. Clue is in the name. And regardless of anything else, Jews are also undeniably genetically Middle Eastern.

Where did I say they had no claim on the land? Don't put words in my mouth, then claim I'm a racist based off your invention, you stupid fuck.

It was implicit in your argument. You're implicitly asserting that Jews have a claim on the lands in question because they're "Middle Eastern," and then implicitly dismissing the Palestinians as "Arabs" from "Arabia."

Or am I misconstruing the basis of your argument? Please clarify.

Yes, you are misconstruing. I was only pointing out that the Arabs in Palestine were largely not, as Animavore seems to think, Jews who had changed religion. They were Arabs, mainly Muslims, who considered themselves very much part of the Arab world, and it's only in the last century that a separate Palestinian identity has arisen.

[Strontium Dog]

Nobody going to answer this? An inconvenient truth, I imagine.

After the re-establishment of Israel, Jews were forced out of Arab lands, leaving behind land covering an area four times the size of Israel. Shouldn't that land be returned to the Jews, since it actually was stolen from them? Or does that not count, because Jews?

Explain to me why the "Jews" get special treatment in this regard. They are not unique.

You people seem uniquely obsessed by the Jews. Envy is a terrible thing.

[Jason]

Nobody going to answer this? An inconvenient truth, I imagine.

After the re-establishment of Israel, Jews were forced out of Arab lands, leaving behind land covering an area four times the size of Israel. Shouldn't that land be returned to the Jews, since it actually was stolen from them? Or does that not count, because Jews?

Explain to me why the "Jews" get special treatment in this regard. They are not unique.

You people seem uniquely obsessed by the Jews. Envy is a terrible thing.

What do you mean? I'm circumcised.

[Jason]

Arabs are from Arabia originally. Clue is in the name. And regardless of anything else, Jews are also undeniably genetically Middle Eastern.

Where did I say they had no claim on the land? Don't put words in my mouth, then claim I'm a racist based off your invention, you stupid fuck.

It was implicit in your argument. You're implicitly asserting that Jews have a claim on the lands in question because they're "Middle Eastern," and then implicitly dismissing the Palestinians as "Arabs" from "Arabia."

Or am I misconstruing the basis of your argument? Please clarify.

Yes, you are misconstruing. I was only pointing out that the Arabs in Palestine were largely not, as Animavore seems to think, Jews who had changed religion. They were Arabs, mainly Muslims, who considered themselves very much part of the Arab world, and it's only in the last century that a separate Palestinian identity has arisen.

Excuse me, but how do you know the Palestinians are not of the same genetic stock as the Jewish people of old?

I demand a test!

[Animavore]

You make it sound like that hasn't happened already

As it happens, I was sent this article today which demonstrates that the Irish themselves don't exactly have a squeaky clean history where persecuting people is concerned.

Red herring. Nothing to with Isreal and the current apartheid regime.

[Strontium Dog]

An apartheid regime where Arab and Jewish citizens enjoy equal rights. Good one.

[Jason]

An apartheid regime where Arab and Jewish citizens enjoy equal rights. Good one.

What the actual fuck are you smoking?