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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:14 pm

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Ted Cruz Allows Last Shred of Dignity to Slip Away, Asks Trump for Help Campaigning
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That title is being generous to Cruz. Even if he ever hypothetically had some dignity at some point in his public life (I don't think he ever did), his grovelling and brown-nosing to Trump is nothing particularly new. Several months ago he wrote a fawning piece about how wonderful it was that Trump was distressing elements in the US that Cruz considers it useful to publicly disdain. Boiled down, it amounted to He's my hero because he's fucking over the libtards, YEAH!

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Post by Tero » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:01 pm

Republic is failing because of....too much government
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:56 pm

No doubt he was the best candidate aside from, you know, that Nazi sympathizer thing.

"'Hitler Was Right,' Says Lunatic Who Just Won a Missouri House Primary"
There are so many Nazis running for office in America right now, it’s hard for even watchdog groups like the Anti-Defamation League to keep track. “I’m trying to get sense of why he flew under the radar, and I’m not sure I have a great answer,” Karen Aroesty, regional director of the Anti-Defamation League, told The Kansas City Star.

She’s referring to Steve West, a local radio host on KCXL and the winner of a Missouri House Republican primary this week by nearly 25 points.

West is a real piece of work. Every Monday morning, he rants on his radio show about “Jewish cabals” that he says are “harvesting baby parts” through Planned Parenthood, and other similarly absurd conspiracy dreck that would maybe be a bit too inflammatory for Alex Jones’ Infowars. He also has a YouTube channel on which he inexplicably dons a wig and fake beard and calls himself “Jack Justice.”

On January 23, 2017 show, he dropped a real doozy: “Looking back in history, unfortunately, Hitler was right about what was taking place in Germany. And who was behind it.” West has never apologized for his many anti-semitic, racist, and homophobic comments.

He asked the Star to link to his absolutely batshit website, which includes front page articles like “The Coming Battle with Islam.” There are also links to archives of his radio show, which include in their titles mentions of anti-semitism, anti-vaxxer rhetoric, conspiracy theories regarding the “assassination” of Antonin Scalia, and QAnon-like theories about pedophilia in liberal circles.

The Missouri Republican Party issued a statement about West on Thursday afternoon. “Steve West’s shocking and vile comments do not reflect the position of the Missouri Republican Party or indeed of any decent individual. West’s abhorrent rhetoric has absolutely no place in the Missouri Republican Party or anywhere. We wholeheartedly condemn his comments,” they said.

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Post by JimC » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:22 pm

Nazis must be really conflicted now. They are so tempted to be as anti-Islamic as possible (coz they're only dirty brown rag heads), but fundamentalist muslims want to kill as many Jews as possible... What's a poor Nazi gunna do? :dunno:
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Post by Seabass » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:34 pm

Yeabut Nazis are fine so long as they are willing to cut taxes. :prof:
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:31 pm

The policy decisions of the Trump Republican party are what's really important. People can overlook a lot of shit, since they're doing great things. Don't forget, Clinton would have been bad for the US and for the world; we just know that because she's a nasty, nasty woman.

'The Trump Tax Cuts Keep Getting Worse for the Deficit — and Better for the Rich'
In making their case for the president’s sweeping tax-cut package last year, Republicans made two major (and majorly ludicrous) promises: The law would neither increase the federal deficit, nor deliver the bulk of its benefits to the very wealthy.

“Not only will this tax plan pay for itself, but it will pay down debt,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin assured the public last September. That claim was echoed by the Republican Party’s preeminent “moderate,” Susan Collins, who informed Meet the Press that the tax cuts would “stimulate the economy, create more jobs,” and thus, “generate more revenue.” Meanwhile, President Trump insisted that “tax reform will protect low-income and middle-income households, not the wealthy and well-connected,” and National Economic Council director Gary Cohn vowed, “The wealthy are not getting a tax cut under our plan.”

Nearly a year later, Donald Trump’s experiment with supply-side economics confirmed the results of prior trials: Turns out, giving large tax cuts to the wealthy makes the rich richer, the government poorer, and ordinary Americans more or less unaffected (unless/until the lost revenue is recouped in cuts to social spending or public investment).

The congressional budget projects that the federal deficit will climb by 39 percent this year, as revenues from corporate taxation fall by 27 percent. In total, Uncle Sam will shell out $912 billion more this year than he collects in taxes.

And the GOP’s second promise isn’t holding up any better. Anyone familiar with arithmetic understood that the White House was lying through its teeth about the distributional implications of its tax plan. But the law’s effects have actually been more regressive than many on the left had anticipated. Although the idea that corporations would share their tax breaks with workers was always dubious, it was plausible that the law would produce a fiscal stimulus that tightened labor markets, and thus, lifted wages. And unemployment has, in fact, fallen to decades lows — but the inflation unleashed by Trump’s deficit spending has actually resulted in a decline in real wages (at least, by certain government measures).

These trends are likely to get worse before they get better — because the longer the tax law is on the books, the better the wealthy will get at exploiting its many, many loopholes. The biggest of these is the law’s special 20 percent tax deduction for income earned through “pass-through” businesses — i.e., businesses that are not set up as C corporations, but as partnerships or LLCs.

As Kansas’s experience amply demonstrated, this sort of provision encourages high-earning professionals to reclassify themselves as small businesses to avoid the top marginal tax rate. Republicans tried to preempt that maneuver by barring the owners of law firms and doctors’ offices from claiming the deduction if their household income is higher than $315,000 for married couples, or $157,000 for individuals.

But the thing about wealthy professionals is, they can afford to hire other wealthy professionals to help them artificially lower their annual income. On Wednesday, Bloomberg revealed that a growing number of small, professional services companies are reviving traditional pension plans to get their income below $315,000. The logic of this move is fairly simple: Whereas workers are only allowed to contribute $18,500 a year to 401(k) retirement plans, workers in their late 50s can contribute over $200,000 a year to “cash balance” pension plans. Large firms abandoned such plans long ago, since federal rules would require them to share such retirement benefits with all of their many workers. But medical offices and boutique law firms with just a handful of lower-level staffers can afford to do right by them and still make a killing off of tax savings.

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The CBO did not take this maneuver into consideration when formulating its deficit projections. And the revival of traditional pensions is only one of the many tricks that tax advisers have developed since the law’s passage. Which is to say: In the field of tax avoidance counseling, the Trump tax cuts really have spurred a burst of innovation — all aimed at making the president’s promises about his signature legislative achievement even more mendacious than they already are.

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Re: Republicans

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:39 pm

Why is the documented failure of so-called trickle down economics not an established fact already? :dunno:

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Post by JimC » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:58 pm

The monied classes have always depended on politicians who can pull the wool over the working class and persuade them to vote against their own rational interests. Trump is just an extreme version of this phenomenon...
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:29 am

JimC wrote:
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The monied classes have always depended on politicians who can pull the wool over the working class and persuade them to vote against their own rational interests. Trump is just an extreme version of this phenomenon...
Especially when you have such a badly educated electorate. It is the toadstool syndrome: Keep them in the dark and feed them a load of shit.
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Post by Tero » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:25 pm

Fake news Fox fails. Denmark is not Venezuela
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Post by Tero » Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:09 pm

Senate Republicans Promise There Will Be Plenty Of Time To Review Kavanaugh Writings When They Become Law Of Land
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Re: Republicans

Post by Forty Two » Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:09 pm

JimC wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:22 pm
Nazis must be really conflicted now. They are so tempted to be as anti-Islamic as possible (coz they're only dirty brown rag heads), but fundamentalist muslims want to kill as many Jews as possible... What's a poor Nazi gunna do? :dunno:
Nazis and Muslims were traditional allies. Hitler said "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France". Hitler was of the view that had the Arab invaders and aggressors won the Battle of Tours, that the West would have become Muslim. Hitler felt that German superiority and military temperment was very well suited to Islam, which taught conquest by the sword as a matter of religion. He thought that the superior Germans would have done well, and ultimately been at the head of the Islamic empire. Hitler wished he had people subscribing to a religion that believed in spreading faith by the sword, which Christianity had long since eschewed. He said, "You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?" (per Albert Speer https://archive.org/details/Inside_the_ ... bert_Speer ).

When dealing with Saudi Arabia, Hitler communicated the Nazis favorable policies toward Arabs because they were jointly fighting the Jews. Kalid al Hud, Saudi Special Envoy, observed that the Prophet Mohammed had acted the same way. He had driven the Jews out of Arabia. So, Brothers in Arms! Although we can't say that Islam has any animus towards the Jews nowadays - we can generalize about the right, but not Islam. They even granted the Grand Mufti "honorary Aryan status" - lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorary_Aryan
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:13 pm

Tero wrote:
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Senate Republicans Promise There Will Be Plenty Of Time To Review Kavanaugh Writings When They Become Law Of Land
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Kavanaugh's appellate decisions are available online to anyone who can navigate the googles. Review away.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:14 pm

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Fake news Fox fails. Denmark is not Venezuela
https://twitter.com/DearAuntCrabby/stat ... 7807224832
A lot of stuff gotten wrong -- Denmark ain't socialist either, which is what the BernieBros want to tell us. Let's do Denmarkian socialism! Duh! https://www.thelocal.dk/20151101/danish ... -socialist
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Re: Republicans

Post by Forty Two » Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:22 pm

JimC wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:58 pm
The monied classes have always depended on politicians who can pull the wool over the working class and persuade them to vote against their own rational interests. Trump is just an extreme version of this phenomenon...
Given the policies he's enacted, it would seem that voting for Trump is in the working class' rational interests, and a vote for Clinton would have been against their rational interests. The interests of the working class are for lower taxes to them (which they got), higher wages (which they're getting), lower unemployment (which they're getting), protection for American industries (which Trump is doing), better access for american companies to foreign markets (which Trump is actively working on), good GDP growth, lower taxes, lower unemployment, high worker participation rate - https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/work ... nder-trump

The working class doesn't give a shit about impolite tweets, and a womanizing philanderer who trades in trophy wives and who is uncouth, ill-mannered, and insulting, and a general dickhead. The working class doesn't give a fuck about that.
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