The US Healthcare Mass Debate
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Trump halts Obamacare insurance payments
WASHINGTON - The Trump administration halted billions of dollars in payments to health insurers under the Obamacare healthcare law, saying that a recent federal court ruling prevents the money from being disbursed.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1JY00W
WASHINGTON - The Trump administration halted billions of dollars in payments to health insurers under the Obamacare healthcare law, saying that a recent federal court ruling prevents the money from being disbursed.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1JY00W
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Anybody paying attention knows that here. US news media is generally crap, but the sporting news recounts the the workings of the system in gleeful detail. Of course, the problem here is that so many Americans aren't paying attention.Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:28 amIt takes little movement to win the electoral college. The Russians knew that.
Heck, people were boasting that about 61% of us voted in the 2016 general election. That's just pitiful.
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61% of what? That is the problem.
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How so?
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God, don't get him started...
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I know, but how does it apply to my point about US voter apathy and low turnout?
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Don't do it...
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Scot's a fellow data guy, so I'm interested in his take on it.
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To know what the apathy is you must know a) how many people registered to vote and b) the number of people that did not register. As we have already observed that is a very difficult proposition in the USA. So use is made of estimations with a margin of error of ?
What is low in a low turnout. I will bet one thing if Trump does well in the elections turnout will be high. That is not based on fact either.
What is low in a low turnout. I will bet one thing if Trump does well in the elections turnout will be high. That is not based on fact either.
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Yes, they use estimates and models to come up with their measures, but they've also been doing this for a long time so they have trends showing a reduction in turnout as a percent of the voting age population. Remember, the US has been conducting federal elections every two years, and a census every ten since 1790. Both are scrutinized by the parties as they have a large impact on political influence and power.
Furthermore, there are plenty of polls and studies that reflect the signs of apathy. A good example is one last year that estimated 37% of Americans don't know who their Representative is. Its methodology isn't very impressive, the margin of error is more than the population of Belgium. but it's representative of what people experience in their everyday lives.
That's the thing Scot, it's more than just the statistics, it permeates our culture. We probably aren't quantifying it accurately, but we know we don't measure up to many other democracies.
Furthermore, there are plenty of polls and studies that reflect the signs of apathy. A good example is one last year that estimated 37% of Americans don't know who their Representative is. Its methodology isn't very impressive, the margin of error is more than the population of Belgium. but it's representative of what people experience in their everyday lives.
That's the thing Scot, it's more than just the statistics, it permeates our culture. We probably aren't quantifying it accurately, but we know we don't measure up to many other democracies.
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Ok Joe I can accept that using the same methodology over a long time will produce a trend that gives an indication of what is happening. Polls and surveys are snapshots which can add to the picture.
If only all states used the same methodology with the same margin of error it would be a vast improvement. It to me seems to be a lack of cooperation between states or the federal government not willing or able to impose definitions.
If only all states used the same methodology with the same margin of error it would be a vast improvement. It to me seems to be a lack of cooperation between states or the federal government not willing or able to impose definitions.
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If you want affordable to all world wide healthcare, outlaw medical and drug patents. All medical research can be through charity, university philanthropy, and government grants / research. Drug and medical equipment companies become just manufacturers free of the costs of research just as generic manufacturers are.
A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.
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Actually it can't. I know, I was there. The industry often buys a "lead" from universities, but only 1/100 of those make it to the market. Drug companies employ armies of scientists to get one new product every couple of years per Big Pharma firm. The investment is enormous.
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late
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Trump care allows selling insurance that...might let you see a doctor...or something
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/20/trumps- ... -cost.htmlProposed regulations out Tuesday from the Health and Human Services department allow health insurers to sell so-called "short-term" policies that can last up to 12 months. The plans don't have to meet the Affordable Care Act's consumer protections, or offer a robust benefit package.
That means short-term policies will come with lower premiums. The administration is hoping that will help several million consumers who buy individual plans but aren't eligible for subsidies under the Obama health care law.
Critics say short-term policies will draw healthy people away from the health law's insurance markets, potentially making them less stable and raising subsidy costs for taxpayers.
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
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And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late
Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
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And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late
Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...
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