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Usually? What are you basing this on? Trump is demonstrably stupid. No projection at all.Forty Two wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 4:51 pmYawn. In the eyes of most Democrats and their non-American equivalents, the only smart Republican in the last 90 years was Nixon, and he was an evil-incarnate genius. There isn't a Republican candidate or President that isn't labeled an idiot or dumb by the American left. https://www.israelnationalnews.com/Arti ... aspx/21532 - it's always something to be suspicious of, when someone's playbook is invariably calling other people stupid..... it's usually projection and/or insecurity.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 3:21 pmYou can't be taken seriously when you support Trump and call other people dumb. Trump is dumb as dog shit, and mentally fucked up on top of that.
It doesn't make me dumb. It means I don't fit in with this busted up society. And this "trailer" is quite nice and in a stunning location thank you. I can fish in my backyard. I can ride my bike for about 5 minutes and be at a stunning endless beach with very few people on it. Apart from the stupid amount of site rent that I have to pay, it's the best place I've ever lived.Dumb as dog shit, but you live in a trailer on the dole. LOL. What's that make you?
Regarding the dole, there's plenty of people on the dole, and for good reason. There's far more jobseekers than jobs. This is the reality of our world that conservatives and most liberals fail to accept. If they did accept it it would shatter the isolated cocoons that they live in. Un- and under-employment is only going to get worse as automation takes more and more jobs. This is a reality that sheltered middle class mummies boys just don't get.
Oh, and it's good to see you getting all offended on behalf of the Don. But come on, calling him stupid, when he demonstrably is, isn't really that shocking. Even you would have to agree that some of the things that he's done and said are fucking dumb. And remember, we are talking about the fucking most important job in the world. If we were talking about a middle manager somewhere, it wouldn't really matter if he wasn't the sharpest knife in the draw. But this cunt is the leader of the world, essentially. FFS, you've got to have some standards when it comes to that level of responsibility and importance. Basically your argument has always been, and is still, going by what you wrote above, that the more money someone has, the more gifted or intelligent they are. That's a pretty shallow argument.
I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. You sure you aren't confusing me with your mum?You can't even buy your own groceries.
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Smart people tend to call Republicans dumb because Republicans tend to be dumb. Only 6% of American scientists vote Republican. That should tell you something about what smart people think of the Republican party and religious conservatism in general.
Trump's base consists mostly of non-college educated whites. If college were free in this country, Trump wouldn't have stood a chance.
Trump's base consists mostly of non-college educated whites. If college were free in this country, Trump wouldn't have stood a chance.
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"Educated" =/= "college" anymore.Seabass wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 6:21 pmSmart people tend to call Republicans dumb because Republicans tend to be dumb. Only 6% of American scientists vote Republican. That should tell you something about what smart people think of the Republican party and religious conservatism in general.
Trump's base consists mostly of non-college educated whites. If college were free in this country, Trump wouldn't have stood a chance.
White and wealthy voters gave victory to Donald Trump, exit polls show
Most white voters of both sexes and almost all ages and education levels backed the Republican https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... exit-polls
Among whites, Trump won an overwhelming share of those without a college degree; and among white college graduates – a group that many identified as key for a potential Clinton victory – Trump outperformed Clinton by a narrow 4-point margin.
Trump lost in relation to non-white college graduates, but he beat Clinton when it came to white college graduates, according to Pew Research.
The US in 2012 had a graduation rate of 39%, which was higher than Canada, Germany and many other countries. We're not behind on college grad rates. And, there aren't too many countries that offer "free college."
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That is why public education is so lousy. Keep them dumb otherwise they might be dangerous.
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Yeah, that's how I see it. Have a good private education system that by its nature tends to be conservative, not progressive, and then continually cut funding to public education. As you say, that keeps most people too stupid to know what's really going on, and allows for an elite cadre of more conservative graduates to fill the jobs necessary to keep the whole sham running.
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Changed my mind above, old white congressmen are out. Senate, some hanging on.
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Trump will need to pull off some miracle to get a good chunk of independents. Independents, if voting, do not have much patience. You get 4 years and if nothing changed for ME, then, next!!!!
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The 2020 presidential election is still more than 800 days away, but a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll shows President Donald Trump with paltry levels of support when matched up with nearly a dozen would-be Democratic opponents.
Against the two best-known candidates — former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) — Trump trails 12 percentage points and is mired in the low 30s. Biden leads Trump, 43 percent to 31 percent, and Sanders’ lead over the president is virtually the same, 44 percent to 32 percent.
Trump also trails Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) — the first-term senator he has mocked as “Pocahontas,” which Warren calls a racial slur — but by a smaller margin, 34 percent to 30 percent. A plurality of voters, 36 percent, are undecided.
Trump will need to pull off some miracle to get a good chunk of independents. Independents, if voting, do not have much patience. You get 4 years and if nothing changed for ME, then, next!!!!
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A Big Challenge
President Trump has raised over 30 million for his re-election. The supporters donate on line every time the presidency is challenged.
The problem with the election in 2020 is that Trump already has a message and it is working in a large part of the right wing and independent voters: America First!
Such a simple message is absolutely what works in today's Twitter world. The tweet length messages are easy to respond to and force a gut feel response in voters. A feel for support for those threatened and a feel of hate for those that are the target or support groups Trump and his folk absolutely hate.
I would not be too focused on what the voters can be given (healthcare, education, jobs etc) but go full force in some kind of TRUMP IS EVIL message. Never mind that Republicans are offended by coarse language. They will never vote for a Democrat anyway. Convey in simple terms that he is a hateful asshole.
If the Democrats are running a woman, I have to say that Hillary will be the one best equipped to challenge his every act and word. It will be easy for Trump to just label her "Loser Hillary." But she could just go full force on Trump supporters this time:
If the candidate is another woman, I would get a male VP partner. The woman candidate can focus on the working classes that were ignored last time. They want simple things: jobs and healthcare. Do not offer them community college as a solution. You only have four years to help them. A raised minimum wage will work well. Their children can be offered the education. Then, with the caring candidate, you add a man VP candidate whose job is to go after Trump daily in the most clever and quick witted response and basically to be the attack dog.
I'll just offer a simple slogan: Vote for (Democrat), we care! Trump does not care about you.
A Big Challenge
President Trump has raised over 30 million for his re-election. The supporters donate on line every time the presidency is challenged.
The problem with the election in 2020 is that Trump already has a message and it is working in a large part of the right wing and independent voters: America First!
Such a simple message is absolutely what works in today's Twitter world. The tweet length messages are easy to respond to and force a gut feel response in voters. A feel for support for those threatened and a feel of hate for those that are the target or support groups Trump and his folk absolutely hate.
I would not be too focused on what the voters can be given (healthcare, education, jobs etc) but go full force in some kind of TRUMP IS EVIL message. Never mind that Republicans are offended by coarse language. They will never vote for a Democrat anyway. Convey in simple terms that he is a hateful asshole.
If the Democrats are running a woman, I have to say that Hillary will be the one best equipped to challenge his every act and word. It will be easy for Trump to just label her "Loser Hillary." But she could just go full force on Trump supporters this time:
If the candidate is another woman, I would get a male VP partner. The woman candidate can focus on the working classes that were ignored last time. They want simple things: jobs and healthcare. Do not offer them community college as a solution. You only have four years to help them. A raised minimum wage will work well. Their children can be offered the education. Then, with the caring candidate, you add a man VP candidate whose job is to go after Trump daily in the most clever and quick witted response and basically to be the attack dog.
I'll just offer a simple slogan: Vote for (Democrat), we care! Trump does not care about you.
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The line to get to the Trump rally in Houston formed more than a day in advance. More people showed than could fit in the venue. Four times the number that showed up to see Obama at UNLV. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/22/us/t ... scene.html
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Texas is a big state. With voter suppression across the state they can beat a Democrat. I think Cruz will last 6 years and be gone. With a Democrat winning, that would piss off Republicans to hang on to seats in house 2022. But still, state is going Latino. Make babies!
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You mean the Democrat voter fraud rings that were created to stuff the ballot boxes? https://www.star-telegram.com/news/loca ... 20740.htmlTero wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:02 pmTexas is a big state. With voter suppression across the state they can beat a Democrat. I think Cruz will last 6 years and be gone. With a Democrat winning, that would piss off Republicans to hang on to seats in house 2022. But still, state is going Latino. Make babies!
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I usually vote for down-ticket Democrats.
I'm not doing that this time.
Republicans all the way, or libertarians.
My representative should hold his seat. He dominates in my area.
I am really wondering about the turnout in the midterms here - usually, high turnout is bad for the incumbent. But, this time around I saw people waiting for 24+ hours to have a chance to be at a Trump rally, and 100,000 showed up to compete for about 30,000 seats.
Every Trump rally is huge. The Democrats, even Obama, have crowds that CNN and MSNBC have to focus in closely on, and smush everyone together to pretend it's a larger crowd than it is. They are hiding the fervency behind Trump.
I am not sure. I suspect the GOP will lose the House, and that's a shame. We are making such good progress economically, foreign policy, militarily - the Democrats are so tied to the left now that they don't even view the good economics as a good thing.
What about Corey Booker's accuser? Getting constant play on CNN, right? LOL. Believe the victim! Unless it's an accuser of Corey Booker or Keith Ellison.
I'm not doing that this time.
Republicans all the way, or libertarians.
My representative should hold his seat. He dominates in my area.
I am really wondering about the turnout in the midterms here - usually, high turnout is bad for the incumbent. But, this time around I saw people waiting for 24+ hours to have a chance to be at a Trump rally, and 100,000 showed up to compete for about 30,000 seats.
Every Trump rally is huge. The Democrats, even Obama, have crowds that CNN and MSNBC have to focus in closely on, and smush everyone together to pretend it's a larger crowd than it is. They are hiding the fervency behind Trump.
I am not sure. I suspect the GOP will lose the House, and that's a shame. We are making such good progress economically, foreign policy, militarily - the Democrats are so tied to the left now that they don't even view the good economics as a good thing.
What about Corey Booker's accuser? Getting constant play on CNN, right? LOL. Believe the victim! Unless it's an accuser of Corey Booker or Keith Ellison.
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Gerrymandering, Seattle groups dostracting Democrats with mailers to vote for ”different Drmocrats” and all the voter ID tricks. It’s bordering on illegal what Republicans do. Not to mention Russian Trolls.Forty Two wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:29 pmYou mean the Democrat voter fraud rings that were created to stuff the ballot boxes? https://www.star-telegram.com/news/loca ... 20740.htmlTero wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:02 pmTexas is a big state. With voter suppression across the state they can beat a Democrat. I think Cruz will last 6 years and be gone. With a Democrat winning, that would piss off Republicans to hang on to seats in house 2022. But still, state is going Latino. Make babies!
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
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Our case for survival before it's too late
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
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And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late
Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...
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