Stocks in trump era

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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by Tero » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:14 am

Trump market will need some Viagra in 2018? Trump may even go soft long before 2018 stock orgasm.
Something else to chew on here is what truly drove last week's impressive price action. The credit seems to be going to the expected impact of tax cuts and the synchronized global expansion we are seeing. That's great, and probably true. But did things really improve that much last week?

Yes, we got some better-than-expected data last week (at least until the employment report on Friday) both domestically and overseas. Still, they were not shockingly high numbers, and we did not see significant moves in any other market.

Instead, consider this theory: the data were simply good enough to help the stock market rally a bit; but then the algorithms kicked in and took the market higher, which caused so-called performance fear to kick in for institutional investors who don't want to fall behind at the very start of the year. That, in turn, took the market higher and in turn pushed algorithms to buy more, and these two issues kept feeding on one another.

Of course, this does not mean the market cannot go much higher over time; it could even go higher within a couple of weeks. We simply already knew the economy was growing on a synchronized basis, and the tax bill was passed before the holidays. Thus, we question whether last week's rally is something that will see a lot of upside follow-through in the near term.

Ultimately, our call in the very short term is the expectation of a stock market pullback this week. Once these broad indexes work off their overbought conditions, we'll want to see more solid earnings and how exactly companies will implement tax breaks. Then, we'll have a better idea of whether today's valuations are indeed justified.
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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:49 pm

It's like listening to psychics and other new age folk talk to each other, you were sure before that moment that they all knew they were full of shit. But now, god, if they're willing to talk to each other --to other people who are supposed to be in on it-- like nothing at all was wrong with what they're saying, then who knows?

Maybe you're the sucker and the psychics are real? :hairfire:

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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by Tero » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:36 pm

Trump, stocks, jobs, lemmings and owls:
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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by Tero » Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:57 pm

Stock value has very little to do with presidents. Sometimes a short period of "correction" where it falls. The first year of Trump was normal. We can give Obama credit for that. It's too early to say what corporate tax cuts did. But the meddling in tariffs has produced the ragged effect in the last mont or so:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5Eixic?ltr=1
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:31 am

The stockmarket is a psychological gambling club. What matters is what happens to the economy. And the US economy is going to tank as debt balloons and trade wars flare up.
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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by Forty Two » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:39 pm

Shouldn't this thread be merged, too? I can't get a single thread to be left open that discusses the accomplishments or successes of Trump, but there are many threads allowed that are critical. Why?
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:12 am

Because it annoys you? :hehe:
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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by Tero » Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:46 am

Why are you complaining, 42? Trump would not mind, because the whole world is about Trump now.

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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by Svartalf » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:34 am

I dunno what you folk are talking about, stocks are where they should put trump in so he can be vilified by the common people and have various noxious things thrown at him.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:48 am

I really hope there is some way the law can manage to put him in prison before the end of his life.
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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by cronus » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:05 am

Times are gonna get hard unless a miracle happens. America needs new markets to offload it's surplus productive capacity. The UK needs new markets also. :read:
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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by JimC » Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:37 am

Forty Two wrote:Shouldn't this thread be merged, too? I can't get a single thread to be left open that discusses the accomplishments or successes of Trump, but there are many threads allowed that are critical. Why?
This one is pretty specific to the effect of Trump on the stock market, and is only positive or negative depending on the effect...
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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by rainbow » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:09 am

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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by Svartalf » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:12 am

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