When more regulation is better
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With GMO, it should be judged on a case by case basis. Putting new proteins to confer pest resistance into a non-food crop like cotton has less potential ramifications than adding one to food crops, which is not intrinsically unsound, but requiring more careful testing. As well, some trends are definitely disturbing. There are serious ecological ramifications to making, via GM techniques, food crops resistant to a proprietary herbicide, then spraying the shit out of every crop...
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We wouldn't need GMOs if we'd just get rid of about 5 billion ground apes.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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All that was required to save twelve lives were self closing doors. Thay are mandatory in most parts of the developed world.
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Well, it was the Bronx.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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Typical Third World incompetence.
http://ewn.co.za/2018/01/01/liverpool-c ... year-s-eve
In the civilised world, they might have installed fire sprinklers
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In the civilised world, they might have installed fire sprinklers
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There is nothing wrong with the tech, it is as you say the applicationJimC wrote:With GMO, it should be judged on a case by case basis. Putting new proteins to confer pest resistance into a non-food crop like cotton has less potential ramifications than adding one to food crops, which is not intrinsically unsound, but requiring more careful testing. As well, some trends are definitely disturbing. There are serious ecological ramifications to making, via GM techniques, food crops resistant to a proprietary herbicide, then spraying the shit out of every crop...
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Oh yeah, golden rice. Vitamins for poor people.
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Trump says kill all the birds you like. Migratory bird treaty to be ignored:
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Food production regulation:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazard_ ... rol_points
This is what the Government requires to prevent salmonella, listeria etc poisonings.
It’s contained within this bigger monster set of regulations
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_2 ... egulations
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazard_ ... rol_points
This is what the Government requires to prevent salmonella, listeria etc poisonings.
It’s contained within this bigger monster set of regulations
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_2 ... egulations
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Bankers and investors never learn. Regulation is good for banks.
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Trump continues: Americans first, critters last.
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Guvment bad. Rregulation always bad. Well, maybe a few speed limits but that's it!
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environm ... agenda-ombFor instance, why would the Environmental Protection Agency close a program investigating the effects of toxins on children’s health? Is there some evidence that the money is wasted or poorly spent? Why would the EPA allow more unregulated disposal of toxic coal ash? Don’t people in coal regions deserve clean air and water? Is there any reason to think coal ash is currently well-regulated?
These questions barely come up anymore. Republicans oppose regulations because they are regulations; it’s become reflexive, both for the party and for the media the covers them.
As it happens, though, we know something about the costs and benefits of federal regulations. In fact, Trump’s own administration, specifically the (nonpartisan, at least for now) White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB), just released its annual report on that very subject. (Hat tip to E&E.)
Why might that be? Well, in a nutshell, it shows that the GOP is wrong about regulations as a general matter and wrong about Obama’s regulations specifically. Those regulations had benefits far in excess of their costs, and they had no discernible effect on jobs or economic growth.
OMB, more like OMG, amirite?
OMB gathered data and analysis on “major” federal regulations (those with $100 million or more in economic impact) between 2006 and 2016, a period that includes all of Obama’s administration, stopping just short of Trump’s. The final tally, reported in 2001 dollars:
Aggregate benefits: $219 to $695 billion
Aggregate costs: $59 to $88 billion
By even the most conservative estimate, the benefits of Obama’s regulations wildly outweighed the costs.
EPA rules, OMB writes, “account for over 80 percent of the monetized benefits and over 70 percent of the monetized costs” of federal regulation during this period.
For example, new fuel economy standards for medium- and heavy-duty engines had (in 2001 dollars) between $6.7 billion and $9.7 billion in benefits. But they cost industry $0.8 billion to $1.1 billion.
The MATS rule, aimed at reducing toxic emissions from power plants, had between $33 billion and $90 billion in benefits (in 2007 dollars, for some reason), but it cost industry $9.6 billion.
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Regulations are a way of providing jobs for the boys. I'm sure it's not accidental.
The EU has bought into the global warming hoax in a big way. So they encourage "energy efficiency" with regulations.
We are trying to sell a house in Ireland to our American cousin. It turns out you need a BER certificate, which states how "energy efficient" the house is. It's illegal to sell a house without it.
So an ancient old farmhouse, with no insulation and lots of draughts, needs a bit of paper before you can sell it.
And it states the obvious, what everybody already knew.
How much? Cheapest so far is 170 Euros. For a job that nobody wants, nobody needs, and will not change anything. And this is happening for every house or even one bedroom apartment that is sold or rented out in Ireland.
It's a great little racket for a few people, but it's the masses who are getting ripped off by pointless regulations.
By the way, you can get the same bit of paper in the UK for about £40, if you want one. Just shows what happens when they make it obligatory.
And that sums up the EU, and why we are right to leave.
The EU has bought into the global warming hoax in a big way. So they encourage "energy efficiency" with regulations.
We are trying to sell a house in Ireland to our American cousin. It turns out you need a BER certificate, which states how "energy efficient" the house is. It's illegal to sell a house without it.
So an ancient old farmhouse, with no insulation and lots of draughts, needs a bit of paper before you can sell it.
And it states the obvious, what everybody already knew.
How much? Cheapest so far is 170 Euros. For a job that nobody wants, nobody needs, and will not change anything. And this is happening for every house or even one bedroom apartment that is sold or rented out in Ireland.
It's a great little racket for a few people, but it's the masses who are getting ripped off by pointless regulations.
By the way, you can get the same bit of paper in the UK for about £40, if you want one. Just shows what happens when they make it obligatory.
And that sums up the EU, and why we are right to leave.
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mistermack wrote:The EU has bought into the global warming hoax in a big way.
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