"Alt-left" Parading Ignorance, Stupidity, Malice, Etc.

[Cunt]

Is anyone actually standing firmly behind the 'punch a neo-Nazi' position?

On this forum? Ani and pErvin, maybe others.

Are neo-Nazis rare and difficult to find?

I'm betting that neither can show evidence that they have made even the smallest effort to DO any punching, instead trying to incite others to do it by their written, and MAYBE spoken support. There must be a name for that kind of activism...

[Jason]

Hmm.. possibly incitement. Maybe even to imminent lawlessness.

[pErvinalia]

What is Antifa?

(CNN)After protests in Charlottesville, Virginia, turned violent on Saturday, leaving one person dead and dozens injured, the world is still grappling with what happened, who was involved and why.

Hundreds of white nationalists took to the streets over the weekend to protest the removal of a Gen. Robert E. Lee statue. But members of a controversial opposing group, known as Antifa, also showed up to condemn hate and racism.
Here's a closer look at Antifa protesters, who have become more visible in the past year.
What is Antifa?
Antifa is short for anti-fascists. The term is used to define a broad group of people whose political beliefs lean toward the left -- often the far left -- but do not conform with the Democratic Party platform. The group doesn't have an official leader or headquarters, although groups in certain states hold regular meetings.

Antifa positions can be hard to define, but many members support oppressed populations and protest the amassing of wealth by corporations and elites. Some employ radical or militant tactics to get their message across.
Scott Crow, a former Antifa organizer, says the "radical ideals" promoted by Antifas are starting to be adopted by liberals. "They would never have looked at (those ideals) before, because they saw us as the enemy as much as the right-wingers."
The majority of Antifa members don't fall into a stereotype. Since the election of President Donald Trump, however, most new Antifa members are young voters.

How did the group start?
The exact origins of the group are unknown, but Antifa can be traced to Nazi Germany and Anti-Fascist Action, a militant group founded in the 1980s in the United Kingdom.
Modern-day members of Antifa have become more active in making themselves known at public rallies and within the progressive movement, said Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino.
"What they're trying to do now is not only become prominent through violence at these high-profile rallies, but also to reach out through small meetings and through social networking to cultivate disenfranchised progressives who heretofore were peaceful," Levin said.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/what-i ... index.html

An old story, but another worth reading to get a handle on the dangerous organization that is Antifa.

Interesting. Could you point us to your posts with links to the dangerous organisation that is white nationalism?

[pErvinalia]

Interesting. Our interlocutors, still struggling to point out an "alt left", are now talking about free speech.

If we start sectioning out the discussion on Antifa, free speech, and other, unrelated topics (there still hasn't been a related topic, related to what?) to their own threads I'd imagine this thread would be rather thin.

Antifa has infiltrated the left all around the world. It's a cancer that needs to be excised.

Now you're talking like one of us!!

[Jason]

Whatever do you mean? Are you implying some sort of bias on my part? Does this qualify as poisoning the well or an ad-hom?

[Jason]

Interesting. Our interlocutors, still struggling to point out an "alt left", are now talking about free speech.

If we start sectioning out the discussion on Antifa, free speech, and other, unrelated topics (there still hasn't been a related topic, related to what?) to their own threads I'd imagine this thread would be rather thin.

Antifa has infiltrated the left all around the world. It's a cancer that needs to be excised.

Now you're talking like one of us!!

In a non-violent way.

[pErvinalia]

Is anyone actually standing firmly behind the 'punch a neo-Nazi' position?

Oh fuck yes!

[pErvinalia]

Is anyone actually standing firmly behind the 'punch a neo-Nazi' position?

On this forum? Ani and pErvin, maybe others.

Are neo-Nazis rare and difficult to find?

I'm betting that neither can show evidence that they have made even the smallest effort to DO any punching, instead trying to incite others to do it by their written, and MAYBE spoken support. There must be a name for that kind of activism...

Oh look, Cunt turns up for his bi-annual assumption fest...

[Jason]

Is anyone actually standing firmly behind the 'punch a neo-Nazi' position?

On this forum? Ani and pErvin, maybe others.

Are neo-Nazis rare and difficult to find?

I'm betting that neither can show evidence that they have made even the smallest effort to DO any punching, instead trying to incite others to do it by their written, and MAYBE spoken support. There must be a name for that kind of activism...

Oh look, Cunt turns up for his bi-annual assumption fest...

So how many Nazis have you found and punched pErvin? Inquiring minds want to know.

[pErvinalia]

Whatever do you mean? Are you implying some sort of bias on my part? Does this qualify as poisoning the well or an ad-hom?

It's straight out bias. Same as 42 and conservatives in general always whinging about the poor and welfare recipients, yet strangely quet about corporate welfare and massive tax avoidance. You guys aren't actually liberals. You're conservatives in (skimpy) liberal clothing.

[Hermit]

Is anyone actually standing firmly behind the 'punch a neo-Nazi' position?

I would if punching a neo-Nazi were an effective aversion therapy. It isn't, so I don't. Nothing personal, of course, if I did.

Except for JimC. JimC is evil - a fascist masquerading in a threadbare cloak of centrism. Delenda est Iacobus! Oh, how I long to get within striking distance of that monster. When I do, I'll hit him with every weapon of maths instruction at my disposal. I already carry a specially customised protractor in my pocket at all times for that very purpose. Among other enhancements it has 184.7°s. Watch out, traitor. Your defection from the SDS will never be forgiven.

[pErvinalia]

Is anyone actually standing firmly behind the 'punch a neo-Nazi' position?

On this forum? Ani and pErvin, maybe others.

Are neo-Nazis rare and difficult to find?

I'm betting that neither can show evidence that they have made even the smallest effort to DO any punching, instead trying to incite others to do it by their written, and MAYBE spoken support. There must be a name for that kind of activism...

Oh look, Cunt turns up for his bi-annual assumption fest...

So how many Nazis have you found and punched pErvin? Inquiring minds want to know.

None, thankfully, as they aren't as emboldened here as in the US. But if the opportunity presented itself, I would give good consideration to giving one a smack in the chops.

[Jason]

Whatever do you mean? Are you implying some sort of bias on my part? Does this qualify as poisoning the well or an ad-hom?

It's straight out bias. Same as 42 and conservatives in general always whinging about the poor and welfare recipients, yet strangely quet about corporate welfare and massive tax avoidance. You guys aren't actually liberals. You're conservatives in (skimpy) liberal clothing.

I'm critical of the left associating with Antifa because I care about the viability of the left in electoral politics, and especially in the 2020 US presidential election. If the left loses all moral authority, as looks promising to happen if they remain affiliated with Antifa, there's an excellent chance for Trump to scoop the votes he needs to win a second term, and I don't want that. Apparently working to save the left from itself makes me a conservative.

[Jason]

Oh look, Cunt turns up for his bi-annual assumption fest...

So how many Nazis have you found and punched pErvin? Inquiring minds want to know.

None, thankfully, as they aren't as emboldened here as in the US. But if the opportunity presented itself, I would give good consideration to giving one a smack in the chops.

Eh sure. So Cunt's assumptions turned out to be correct. You're just a big talker.

[Animavore]

Is anyone actually standing firmly behind the 'punch a neo-Nazi' position?

On this forum? Ani and pErvin, maybe others.

Are neo-Nazis rare and difficult to find?

I'm betting that neither can show evidence that they have made even the smallest effort to DO any punching, instead trying to incite others to do it by their written, and MAYBE spoken support. There must be a name for that kind of activism...

I don't advocate punching them*. I just advocate not crying over Nazis when their free speech has consequences.


*Except in self defence.