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Post by Tero » Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:41 pm

it's a bad deal in the same way that the completely fair trade deals were for all the partners in the NAFTAs etc :mrgreen:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:45 pm

White supremacists are America's real and present terrorist threat.
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Post by Tero » Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:37 am

Bush delegated all the assholery to Cheney. Not so our tweeting president. Mine! All mine!

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Post by Tero » Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:45 am

President tweets between bouts of erasing Obama work. Mayor not bothering to respond. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/336 ... trumps-ill

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:35 am

The police must be earning great overtime.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:30 am

wrong thread, weird malfunction
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Post by Forty Two » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:25 pm

Tero wrote:it's a bad deal in the same way that the completely fair trade deals were for all the partners in the NAFTAs etc :mrgreen:
(trade deals are simply lists of things that are not part of the deal, usually crops)
NAFTA is a completely fair trade deal? Etc.? So, now the Republican championed, spearheaded, and global free market capitalist regimes, designed to allow American companies to take advantage of low wage, low regulatory legal regimes and produce products at a fraction of their cost if made in the US is "completely fair?" Are you under the impression that the progressives and good hearted socialists were in favor of NAFTA "etc" when they passed?"
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:42 pm

And how does that pertain to withdrawal from the Paris Accord - which was the point Tero was responding to?
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Post by Forty Two » Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:56 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:And how does that pertain to withdrawal from the Paris Accord - which was the point Tero was responding to?
I was addressing his point about NAFTA, calling it a completely fair trade deal, which I did not initially take to be sarcasm.

Withdrawal from the Paris Accord is a different issue. It's a great thing to withdraw from it because it does next to nothing for the climate, and places economic burdens on the US and some other countries that are not desirable. It's more of an economic deal than an environmental deal.
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Post by Forty Two » Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:58 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:White supremacists are America's real and present terrorist threat.
Indeed, and since we live in a white supremacist patriarchy, with all white people being the beneficiaries thereof, therefore, all white people are racist white supremacists. We fucking white males are the problem.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:27 pm

Stop feeling sorry for yourself - self-pity is such an ugly emotion.


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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:41 pm

Donald Trump has stepped up his Twitter attack on London’s mayor over the response to Saturday’s terror attack, with a tirade that also appeared to rebuke the acting US ambassador to Britain.

With his latest tweet on Monday morning, Trump accused Sadiq Khan of making a “pathetic excuse” for his message to Londoners in the wake of the attacks at London Bridge and Borough Market. Trump wrote: “Pathetic excuse by London mayor Sadiq Khan, who had to think fast on his ‘no reason to be alarmed’ statement. [Mainstream media] is working hard to sell it!”

Trump’s initial criticism of Khan on Sunday was based on a misunderstanding of what the mayor had said. Early on Sunday morning, Khan had made a statement expressing grief and vowing that the terrorists “would not win”. Khan then added: “Londoners will see an increased police presence today and over the course of the next few days. There’s no reason to be alarmed.”

A few hours later on Sunday, Trump seemed to interpret that as suggesting Londoners should not be alarmed by terrorism.

“At least seven dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and mayor of London says there is “no reason to be alarmed!” Trump said.

The London mayor’s office responded by saying Khan had “more important things to do than respond to Donald Trump’s ill-informed tweet that deliberately takes out of context his remarks.”

Later on Sunday, the acting US ambassador to Britain, Lewis Lukens, put out a thread of tweets, culminating in a retweet of Khan’s statement and Lukens’ praise for the mayor.

“I commend the strong leadership of the mayor of London as he leads the city forward after this heinous attack,” the acting ambassador said.

In more normal times, such a message of solidarity with a host mayor in an allied state would be unremarkable, but it unleashed a torrent of online abuse from Trump’s supporters, accusing Lukens of disloyalty. Some focused on the fact that the acting ambassador was offering support for a foreign official who is Muslim rather than echoing the president. There were also calls for Lukens to be replaced.

Trump appeared to have picked up on conservative commentary on Monday morning, noting that the London embassy had not had a full ambassador since January. On Twitter he blamed Democrats in Congress for slowing the process.

“Dems are taking forever to approve my people, including ambassadors. They are nothing but OBSTRUCTIONISTS! Want approvals,” he tweeted.

However, although Trump announced on 19 January he had picked Woody Johnson, the owner of the New York Jets, to be the ambassador to the UK, Johnson has yet to be formally nominated to the Senate for confirmation.

So far, the Trump White House has made only 11 nominations for 188 ambassadorial posts. The state department is also operating without much of its senior management because of a lack of nominations.

Once nominations are made, the Democrats would not be able to block them on their own; the Republicans have a slight majority, which is usually enough to confirm appointments.

Trump’s complaint about ambassadorial confirmations suggests he was well aware of the row over Lukens’ remarks when he fired off his second attack on Khan.

With his tweet, Trump seemed to lash out at the mayor’s office’s critical remarks about his initial intervention, coupled with a routine barb aimed at the “mainstream media” (MSM) – presumably for reporting that Trump had mischaracterised the mayor’s original statement....

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Post by Animavore » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:43 pm

What a scumbag he is.
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Post by Animavore » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:46 pm

Lol. And a fucking idiot. Trump does the ACLU's work for them in his second travel ban proposal.

http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/ac ... -ban/3296/

If he's this stupid; how much more so to vote for him? Remember these people thought he was a secret genius who was going to come out from behind his moron persona and shine?

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