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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by Feck » Wed May 24, 2017 5:13 pm

"Let them drink Evian " seems to be Trump's answer to pipelines fracking etc
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Post by Svartalf » Wed May 24, 2017 5:38 pm

Evian is very good, if luxury, water.
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How can water be luxurious? :think:
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Post by JimC » Thu May 25, 2017 12:34 am

Pipeline root, eh?

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Post by Tero » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:14 am

Koch brothers already processing tons just outside Minneapolis:
The Minnesota refinery can process 392,000 barrels (62,300 m3) of crude a day, most of which comes from Alberta, Canada, and handles one quarter of all Canadian oil sands crude entering the U.S

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Post by Tero » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:29 am

Canada Federal court blocks pipeline
Trump administration attorneys are arguing that the federal court system cannot weigh in on its March approval of the controversial Keystone XL oil pipeline.

Justice Department attorneys said in a legal filing late Friday that the State Department’s right to approve cross-border pipelines stems directly from President Trump’s authority under the Constitution, and the Montana federal court hearing the case must dismiss it.

The attorneys argue that the approval is therefore not subject to the Administrative Procedures Act or the National Environmental Policy Act, the laws that environmentalists are using to try to get the courts to block the pipeline.

“As multiple courts have found, because the issuance of a presidential permit for an international crossing is an exercise of the president’s delegated authority over foreign affairs and national security, the exercise of that authority constitutes presidential action that is not reviewable under the Administrative Procedure Act,” the lawyers told the federal District Court for the District of Montana in a brief.
Federal court reviews tribe's request to halt Dakota pipeline
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Federal judges on Wednesday reviewed a tribal request to halt construction on a controversial pipeline project in North Dakota.

The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe has asked the Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit to block construction on a stretch of the Dakota Access Pipeline while its lawsuit against the project moves forward.

A three-judge panel on Wednesday probed both that request and the lengths to which the federal government worked to consult the tribe before approving the pipeline's route near its land.
The judges questioned whether the Army Corps of Engineers, which approved the project, allowed the tribe to influence the scope of their review, a critical step in the process for a pipeline project.

“The Corps invited the tribe to consult on the scope of this assessment,” federal lawyer James Maysonett said, defending the agency. “They obviously reached a fundamental disagreement quite quickly.”
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Canada’s Federal Court of Appeal blocked a controversial oil pipeline Thursday after years of protest by environmentalists.

The court ruled that Canada’s federal government did not properly consult with First Nations on or near the route of the Enbridge Inc.’s proposed Northern Gateway Pipeline, The Globe and Mail reported.

The project was controversial across the continent. It would carry oil sands petroleum from Alberta to the Pacific coast, providing a means for export, the same purpose as the Keystone XL project that President Obama rejected last year.
Northern Gateway was frequently compared to Keystone by environmentalists seeking to sow opposition, and both projects were being planned at the same time.
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Post by Tero » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:51 am

US court blocks Trump
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In a victory for the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, the Court finds that approval of Dakota Access Pipeline violated the law.
In a 91-page decision, Judge James Boasberg ruled that the federal permits authorizing the pipeline to cross the Missouri River just upstream of the Standing Rock reservation, which were hastily issued by the Trump administration just days after the inauguration, violated the law in certain critical respects.
The Court did not determine whether pipeline operations should be shut off and has requested additional briefing on the subject and a status conference next week.
The federal judge wrote, “the Court agrees that [the Corps] did not adequately consider the impacts of an oil spill on fishing rights, hunting rights, or environmental justice, or the degree to which the pipeline’s effects are likely to be highly controversial.”

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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:32 am

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Post by Tero » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:07 pm

Keystone XL faces new challenge: Customers are no longer interested

Jun. 29, 2017 11:16 AM • SA Editor Carl Surran

After spending $3B on pipes, land rights and lobbying and weathering years of protests, TransCanada (TRP -0.3%) is struggling to attract customers for the Keystone XL pipeline amid low crude prices and competing oil transportation options, WSJ reports.
CEO Russ Girling remains committed to completing Keystone XL and believes it will prove profitable in the long term, but it may be years before TRP recoups its investment in the pipeline, according to the report, citing people familiar with his thinking.
In a world awash in low-price oil, many refiners are said to be unwilling to commit to long-term deals for Canadian crude that no longer looks particularly attractive, and uncertainty about production growth from Canada’s oil sands has given producers pause about signing long-term agreements for space on a pipeline they may not need.
Furthermore, several companies are competing to build pipelines from Canada to the U.S., and some analysts doubt there will be enough demand for all of the projects
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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by mistermack » Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:15 pm

It seems contradictory that the economics of the project are getting worse, but there is competition from several other projects to build a pipeline.
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Post by Tero » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:14 pm

The tar sands oil does not make money at all times, market fluctuates. But if they shut it down, start up is costly. In the long run it makes a small profit. And we still need the oil for shipping. To buy our Chinese iPhones.

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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by Tero » Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:01 pm

I'm pretty sure shipping would run with any diesel fuel, we just use the crappiest, saving good diesel for trucks etc. The cheapest fuel is coal but steam engines are not very efficient.

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