The trouble with some kinds of drugs, like alcohol say, is that they are more than a little bit moreish. Get a taste for that kind of stuff and you can end up putting everything else in your life aside without even thinking about.Thumpalumpacus wrote:I'm not really sure that selling drugs should be a capital offense. Me, I reckon if you buy and use those drugs, you own a little responsibility for yourself. It ain't like that drug lord is pushing the needle in at gunpoint.
This is why we need the death penalty...
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Yeh, but impressionable people have trouble separating movies from real life.Thumpalumpacus wrote:Red Dawn was a movie. It was only a movie.
Especially in the US.
That's why they want guns. They want to be like Clint, and big John.
Movies have a lot to answer for.
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And that's why you will be dead, or enslaved and then dead.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
I don't live in your country.
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It's not about the addict, I don't care what you put in your body, it's about the murders to facilitate the manufacture, transport and distribution of the drugs that concerns me.Brian Peacock wrote:The trouble with some kinds of drugs, like alcohol say, is that they are more than a little bit moreish. Get a taste for that kind of stuff and you can end up putting everything else in your life aside without even thinking about.Thumpalumpacus wrote:I'm not really sure that selling drugs should be a capital offense. Me, I reckon if you buy and use those drugs, you own a little responsibility for yourself. It ain't like that drug lord is pushing the needle in at gunpoint.
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Seth wrote:And that's why you will be dead, or enslaved and then dead.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
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Re: This is why we need the death penalty...
Indeed. Give me liberty or give me death.Brian Peacock wrote:Slavery is a state of mind.
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I'm out of liberty right now. But I'll gladly slip some arsenic in your stew.Seth wrote:Indeed. Give me liberty or give me death.Brian Peacock wrote:Slavery is a state of mind.
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First you have to find me, because I'm at liberty.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:I'm out of liberty right now. But I'll gladly slip some arsenic in your stew.Seth wrote:Indeed. Give me liberty or give me death.Brian Peacock wrote:Slavery is a state of mind.
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Oh. I thought you were giving me the choice. Typical capitalist bait-and-switch!Seth wrote:First you have to find me, because I'm at liberty.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:I'm out of liberty right now. But I'll gladly slip some arsenic in your stew.Seth wrote:Indeed. Give me liberty or give me death.Brian Peacock wrote:Slavery is a state of mind.
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I don't see how that addresses my point, which was that I don't think selling drugs should be a capital offense.Brian Peacock wrote:The trouble with some kinds of drugs, like alcohol say, is that they are more than a little bit moreish. Get a taste for that kind of stuff and you can end up putting everything else in your life aside without even thinking about.Thumpalumpacus wrote:I'm not really sure that selling drugs should be a capital offense. Me, I reckon if you buy and use those drugs, you own a little responsibility for yourself. It ain't like that drug lord is pushing the needle in at gunpoint.
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The OP was about the escaped Mexican drug gang boss. From what I can gather, he murdered (and/or ordered murdered) quite a few people. Whether this should attract a death penalty is moot, but he did a lot more than just sell drugs.Thumpalumpacus wrote:I don't see how that addresses my point, which was that I don't think selling drugs should be a capital offense.Brian Peacock wrote:The trouble with some kinds of drugs, like alcohol say, is that they are more than a little bit moreish. Get a taste for that kind of stuff and you can end up putting everything else in your life aside without even thinking about.Thumpalumpacus wrote:I'm not really sure that selling drugs should be a capital offense. Me, I reckon if you buy and use those drugs, you own a little responsibility for yourself. It ain't like that drug lord is pushing the needle in at gunpoint.
But, on just selling drugs, naturally I would agree with you.
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and if you were his wife he would eat that stew with great reliefXamonas Chegwé wrote:I'm out of liberty right now. But I'll gladly slip some arsenic in your stew.Seth wrote:Indeed. Give me liberty or give me death.Brian Peacock wrote:Slavery is a state of mind.
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Murder may or may not be a suitable justification for the death penalty, sure.Seth wrote: It's not about the addict, I don't care what you put in your body, it's about the murders to facilitate the manufacture, transport and distribution of the drugs that concerns me.
Me, I'd prefer jailing them in Supermax for the rest of their natural days ... "how the mighty have fallen" and all that.
Now, in the Mexican system, killing them is likely the safest bet for keeping them from killing more, but it's a kindness I don't think the state should extend, generally, given secure confinement.
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