Boston Marathon hit by explosions

[Bella Fortuna]

His avatar is the same as her avatar on FB, and she thinks there's a connection. There's not.

[Cormac]

mistermack not a mister at all?
Joan Fitzpatrick
Do you know Joan? Two members from here do.

Gallstones, what is the purpose of this post?

She's having fun questioning mistermack's integrity, I think.

I'd rather we left identification of members up to themselves, regardless of our opinion of them - except where a potentially criminal actight be involved - and afaik we've never had anything like that.

[sandinista]

Two apostrophes put together are quotation marks. Not that I "expect" someone of your "intelligence" to understand the subtle art of subtlety and stuff. And what's the difference?

Care for a drink?

good explanation. I Haven't drank for months, but I'll have virtual smoke with ya.

[Ian]

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A well-regulated militia indeed.

[sandinista]

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A well-regulated militia indeed.

yah 1000 to one is a good competition. Fuck I should hope they caught the guy. Geez. OOh you did your job, congrats.

[Ian]

Thy blanket is wet.

[JimC]

We need, no doubt, to analyse possible factors that generate terrorist acts. Sandinista and others on the left, from 2001 onwards, have brought up US and/or western military actions overseas, particularly in Islamic countries. There is little doubt that recruitment into terrorist activities has been facilitated and increased; every drone strike into Pakistan that kills women and children is a potent recruitment poster...

But some, a little like mistermack with his ancient tales from the troubles, imbue possible causes with an emotion dangerously close to satisfaction, a kind of "sow the breeze, reap the whirlwind" with extra helpings of schadenfreude...

We need some degree of separation; the condemnation of acts of terrorism such as in Boston should not be undermined with "your turn now" ugliness.

But neither should we stop at least questioning, and more probably opposing the unethical use of military power in its current US form, with its callous disregard for the lives of civilians caught in the drone missile crossfire.

[cronus]

Maybe the US should invade Chechnya and bomb the rubble there to send a message, though?

[Ian]

It'll be interesting to hear what, if anything, the kid says now that he's in custody.

In the meantime, people are just projecting their own belief systems onto what this kid's motivation might have been. Of course Sandi types have brought up US/western military action overseas and how it surely must create more terrorists than it destroys, etc (though I kinda doubt these guys were personally pissed about that). Of course mistermack, having a thing about the IRA, brings up the historical footnote of the IRA drawing some of its US funding from the Boston area and sports a reap-what-you-sow sort of schadenfreude (which says nothing about Boston and less about these bombers, just about mistermack). And since it hasn't been mentioned yet, I'll sum up one right-wing line of thought I've heard from somewhere (which I do not really agree with either): these guys, like many Chechens, were frustrated with the lack of intervention or even interest from the US on behalf of their country's struggle against harsh Russian occupation, and they sought some combination of revenge and attention for their homeland's plight. Or, it might be something else entirely.

How about we just wait to hear what the young jerk has to say for himself?

[Tyrannical]

these guys, like many Chechens, were frustrated with the lack of intervention or even interest from the US on behalf of their country's struggle against harsh Russian occupation, and they sought some combination of revenge and attention for their homeland's plight.

Seems like a good reason not to let them into the US.

It's a shame Russia wasn't more successful in Chechnya, as only a thorough cleansing of Islamic influences will fix it.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

these guys, like many Chechens, were frustrated with the lack of intervention or even interest from the US on behalf of their country's struggle against harsh Russian occupation, and they sought some combination of revenge and attention for their homeland's plight.

Seems like a good reason not to let them into the US.

It's a shame Russia wasn't more successful in Chechnya, as only a thorough cleansing of Islamic influences will fix it.

And, as any cook will tell you, you can't "cleanse" an influence without breaking heads.

[cronus]

these guys, like many Chechens, were frustrated with the lack of intervention or even interest from the US on behalf of their country's struggle against harsh Russian occupation, and they sought some combination of revenge and attention for their homeland's plight.

Seems like a good reason not to let them into the US.

It's a shame Russia wasn't more successful in Chechnya, as only a thorough cleansing of Islamic influences will fix it.

And, as any cook will tell you, you can't "cleanse" an influence without breaking heads.

Sometimes it is necessary to confront evil with a greater power. In this confrontation religious language quickly mitigates doing whatever is necessary to silence the critics?

[Tyrannical]

these guys, like many Chechens, were frustrated with the lack of intervention or even interest from the US on behalf of their country's struggle against harsh Russian occupation, and they sought some combination of revenge and attention for their homeland's plight.

Seems like a good reason not to let them into the US.

It's a shame Russia wasn't more successful in Chechnya, as only a thorough cleansing of Islamic influences will fix it.

And, as any cook will tell you, you can't "cleanse" an influence without breaking heads.

Yes, but Muslims are already familiar with how that game plays Besides, the heads that you don't break will probably try and break yours.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

these guys, like many Chechens, were frustrated with the lack of intervention or even interest from the US on behalf of their country's struggle against harsh Russian occupation, and they sought some combination of revenge and attention for their homeland's plight.

Seems like a good reason not to let them into the US.

It's a shame Russia wasn't more successful in Chechnya, as only a thorough cleansing of Islamic influences will fix it.

And, as any cook will tell you, you can't "cleanse" an influence without breaking heads.

Sometimes it is necessary to confront evil with a greater power. In this confrontation religious language quickly mitigates doing whatever is necessary to silence the critics?

So does political language and ideological language. Which is what happened when Russia bombed the fuck out of Chechnya when it tried to follow other former soviet states into nationhood. Twice!

Can't fault them for feeling aggrieved. Of course, none of that excuses any acts of terrorism. But describing the nationalistic wishes of a state that wishes to secede as "evil" adss nothing of value to the discussion!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

It's a shame Russia wasn't more successful in Chechnya, as only a thorough cleansing of Islamic influences will fix it.

Ethnic cleansing, it works bitches!