Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

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Re: Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

Post by Jason » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:26 am

Yeah. I cook em up. They're about the same size as partridges and very tasty.

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Re: Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

Post by JimC » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:27 am

Gallstones wrote:
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Never hunted anything that couldn't hunt me back, so I'll take your word for it.
You have to be good. A turkey head is a tiny target.
I take the heads off of wood ducks with my .22WMR. Not exactly 'legal', but meh.
Wood ducks!? :(
If they're not rare or endangered, and he eats 'em, I have no issue...
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Post by Jason » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:31 am

They're not endangered at all. The males are colourful.. maybe that's it.

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Re: Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

Post by Gallstones » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:31 am

Blind groper wrote:
Făkünamę wrote: You've moved from 'strictly handguns' to all guns.
I listed what I would like to see, if it were possible. We all know that American gun enthusiasts and the NRA are not strictly sane. Nor are the politicians under the NRA thumb honest. With that level of corruption, there is no way the USA is going to develop sensible gun laws any time soon. Sadly.
No "we" don't all know that.
You are stating your own bigoted opinion as if it is a fact. The rest of us just aren't that stupid.
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Gallstones wrote:A convicted criminal can not legally purchase or own a gun. They don't worry about the legality of it so much.
Which is why gun availability has to be restricted right across the board. Today, any murderer not in prison can buy a gun on the second hand market. If Americans are at all wise, they will plus that loophole, at least.
Excellent let's have the loophole purchase avenue plussed, expanded that is. :tup:
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Re: Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

Post by Gallstones » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:32 am

Făkünamę wrote:They're not endangered at all. The males are colourful.. maybe that's it.
No, no, no.
Wood ducks are cute and pretty and must be left unmolested from violence to live carefree lives in the forest with Bambi and Thumper's families.
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Re: Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

Post by Blind groper » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:38 am

Gallstones wrote: The rest of us just aren't that stupid.
Anyone who sees the gun crime statistics and still claims that more guns means less crime is very, very stupid.

Anyone who continues to believe John Lott's claims, after seeing that a number of his peers have studied those claims and shown that they are garbage, is very, very stupid.
For every human action, there is a rationalisation and a reason. Only sometimes do they coincide.

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Post by FBM » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:41 am

Făkünamę wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Never hunted anything that couldn't hunt me back, so I'll take your word for it.
You have to be good. A turkey head is a tiny target.
I take the heads off of wood ducks with my .22WMR. Not exactly 'legal', but meh.
It helps to treat some laws more as suggestions. :tup:
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Re: Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

Post by Gallstones » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:50 am

Blind groper wrote:
Gallstones wrote: The rest of us just aren't that stupid.
Anyone who sees the gun crime statistics and still claims that more guns means less crime is very, very stupid.

Anyone who continues to believe John Lott's claims, after seeing that a number of his peers have studied those claims and shown that they are garbage, is very, very stupid.
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What the rest of us aren't stupid about...because you snipped....is your stating your own bigoted opinions as if they are facts. We know they are your opinions. :whisper:
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Re: Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

Post by aspire1670 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:03 am

Gallstones wrote:
Blind groper wrote:
Gallstones wrote: The rest of us just aren't that stupid.
Anyone who sees the gun crime statistics and still claims that more guns means less crime is very, very stupid.

Anyone who continues to believe John Lott's claims, after seeing that a number of his peers have studied those claims and shown that they are garbage, is very, very stupid.
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What the rest of us aren't stupid about...because you snipped....is your stating your own bigoted opinions as if they are facts. We know they are your opinions. :whisper:
Psst, Gallstones, you're projecting again.
All rights have to be voted on. That's how they become rights.

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Re: Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

Post by Gallstones » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:15 am

aspire1670 wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Blind groper wrote:
Gallstones wrote: The rest of us just aren't that stupid.
Anyone who sees the gun crime statistics and still claims that more guns means less crime is very, very stupid.

Anyone who continues to believe John Lott's claims, after seeing that a number of his peers have studied those claims and shown that they are garbage, is very, very stupid.
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What the rest of us aren't stupid about...because you snipped....is your stating your own bigoted opinions as if they are facts. We know they are your opinions. :whisper:
Psst, Gallstones, you're projecting again.
Psst, aspire, you're passing a turd again.
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Re: Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

Post by Blind groper » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:22 am

Gallstones wrote: We know they are your opinions.
They are conclusions.
My approach is to look at the data and draw the obvious conclusions.
For every human action, there is a rationalisation and a reason. Only sometimes do they coincide.

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Re: Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

Post by Gallstones » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:32 am

Blind groper wrote:
Gallstones wrote: We know they are your opinions.
They are conclusions.
My approach is to look at the data and draw the obvious conclusions.
Bigoted and saturated with personal bias and judgementalism whatever you choose to name them.
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Re: Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

Post by Blind groper » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:43 am

Gallstones wrote:
Bigoted and saturated with personal bias and judgementalism whatever you choose to name them.

Hmmm.

Gallstones,

Methinks that you are trying to evade the issue by ascribing personal motives to my views. I hold my views because they are the rational views to hold, based on the data available.

I realise that you do not want to look squarely at the data and the obvious conclusions, because those conclusions do not fit with your emotion based illogic. Nothing unusual there. Most people think with their gonads, rather than their brain, and are unable to separate personal desire from rational thinking.

The USA has by far the greatest murder rate out of all developed countries - 4 times as high in most cases. It also has the highest gun ownership of all developed countries. Nearly two thirds of all US murders are done with firearms (mostly hand guns). The conclusion is obvious. Guns are the problem, and mostly hand guns. You cannot face this simple fact because you have an atavistic love of guns. Your emotions get in the way of clarity of thought.
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Re: Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

Post by JimC » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:25 am

You may as well give up, BG - she has a deep emotional commitment to her precious guns which no amount of rational argument or evidence will ever shift...
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Re: Guns used for lawful self defense Pt. 4

Post by aspire1670 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:48 am

Gallstones wrote:
aspire1670 wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Blind groper wrote:
Gallstones wrote: The rest of us just aren't that stupid.
Anyone who sees the gun crime statistics and still claims that more guns means less crime is very, very stupid.

Anyone who continues to believe John Lott's claims, after seeing that a number of his peers have studied those claims and shown that they are garbage, is very, very stupid.
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What the rest of us aren't stupid about...because you snipped....is your stating your own bigoted opinions as if they are facts. We know they are your opinions. :whisper:
Psst, Gallstones, you're projecting again.
Psst, aspire, you're passing a turd again.
I thank you for your concern for my welfare but I did know that. It's why I always tread carefully when I pass by your projections. I wouldn't want to step in one of them cos they leave a nasty smell.
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