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Post by Hermit » Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:38 pm

aufbahrung wrote:
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How do the squares on the sceptic boards know Newtons magic failed? With Newton having the awkward times he had, having some magic interest might have staved off the doubters who could have ruined his career and contributions in the real science. So it might have worked. Like a cultural placebo - or something.
Newton had a rough start indeed. He was born prematurely two years into the civil wars. His father died three months before his birth. But before he was five years old things had settled down. The wars had ended and his mother had remarried by then. Life was comfortable and peaceful. Between the age of 12 and 17 he was educated at The King's School, Grantham. From there he went to another elite school, King's School, and then, at the age of 19, to Trinity College, Cambridge. You could not really get there unless your parents were already well connected. Three years later he was awarded a scholarship which paid his way to an MA four years later. If Newton possessed magical powers already, which I doubt, they were not needed.
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Re: Global Climate Change Science News

Post by aufbahrung » Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:41 pm

Hermit wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:38 pm
aufbahrung wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:55 am
How do the squares on the sceptic boards know Newtons magic failed? With Newton having the awkward times he had, having some magic interest might have staved off the doubters who could have ruined his career and contributions in the real science. So it might have worked. Like a cultural placebo - or something.
Newton had a rough start indeed. He was born prematurely two years into the civil wars. His father died three months before his birth. But before he was five years old things had settled down. The wars had ended and his mother had remarried by then. Life was comfortable and peaceful. Between the age of 12 and 17 he was educated at The King's School, Grantham. From there he went to another elite school, King's School, and then, at the age of 19, to Trinity College, Cambridge. You could not really get there unless your parents were already well connected. Three years later he was awarded a scholarship which paid his way to an MA four years later. If Newton possessed magical powers already, which I doubt, they were not needed.
Your applying modern takes on a skeletal history - it was seriously different abled in those days.
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Post by macdoc » Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:14 am

We find a few around thinks there is global cooling going on because they are in an Arctic Dipole cold zone. :roll: of course they live in Alberta so are awaiting the return of the oil boom...ain't happening.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:00 pm

Share it?

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Post by blindfaith » Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:01 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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It looks like they have reanimated patrick moore in that vid :zombie:

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Lolz. ;)
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:26 pm

The myth of carbon offsetting air travel...

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Post by macdoc » Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:32 am

Let's see...some mug on youtube or David Suzuki? :ask:
Purchasing Carbon Offsets: A Guide for Canadian Consumers, Businesses, and Organizations is a guide for Canadians seeking to offset climate-altering emissions from air travel or other activities. The guide provides general information on offsets, as well as a comparative ranking of 20 offset vendors from Canada and around the world. The ranking is based on criteria established by staff from the Pembina Institute and the David Suzuki Foundation.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:11 am

Nice. But if we're going to finesse a market solution to the persistence of carbon dioxide atoms in the atmosphere why not charge the polluters directly? Wouldn't that kind of capital imperative drive technical innovation towards reducing pollution?

On the other hand, wouldn't we expect a market in offsetting to drive prices down for the consumers, which in this case are the polluters - more pollution cheaper? If not, what's the rationale for granting the polluters the privilege of devising and instituting regulatory systems and market solutions to address their own ongoing pollution? Isn't that like putting the alcoholic in charge of the cocktail cabinet?

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Post by macdoc » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:01 pm

You treat the airlines as villians and think they want a market solution when in fact they are highly regulated and are working on a wide range of carbon neutral or reduced carbon solutions..a Dreamliner gets better fuel mileage per capita than a prius with 4 people aboard and that's the kind of plane the airlines are flying now ( Air bus has a couple of uber efficient planes as well )

Industrial society needs aircraft for transport both for goods and people.
Using valid offsets is a temporary and effective method of neutralizing the current carbon release as new solutions arise. It does not matter where the decarboning arises.

EV aircraft are not effective yet for long range but are moving foward for commuter planes

https://thedriven.io/2020/03/13/commerc ... y-by-2030/

and bio fuel is progressing as well tho that has issues.
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