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Engaging with the Terminator AI
How would you conduct a conversation with a vastly superior to human machine intelligence, which had the power to destroy all humans if it found reason to?
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I guess I would have them lie down on a couch and tell me about their childhood and all that.
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Don't talk to it when drinking. Someone should make a simulation and the posts would be hilarious.
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Fred Hoyle wrote a novel about it in 1957. Makes for fascinating reading.aufbahrung wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:15 pmHow would you conduct a conversation with a vastly superior to human machine intelligence, which had the power to destroy all humans if it found reason to?
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I recall an SF short story from way back. A summary goes like this:
Humans decided to build the ultimate computer, a massive machine in Earth orbit. It took many years to complete, and they fed it with the sum total of human knowledge to that point. When it was operational, the chief technician asked the question that had dominated human thought for so long. He asked:
"Is there a God?"
The answer came swiftly back:
"There is now"
Humans decided to build the ultimate computer, a massive machine in Earth orbit. It took many years to complete, and they fed it with the sum total of human knowledge to that point. When it was operational, the chief technician asked the question that had dominated human thought for so long. He asked:
"Is there a God?"
The answer came swiftly back:
"There is now"
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Might be only months, if that, between AI attaining human like intelligence and God like intelligence. Makes you think?
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The hurdle is to get to AI attaining human-like intelligence first. It's like successfully harnessing fusion energy - always just a few years away.aufbahrung wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:15 amMight be only months, if that, between AI attaining human like intelligence and God like intelligence. Makes you think?
As for god-like intelligence, which god's intelligence are you thinking of? The one who built the playground right next to the sewer when he designed the human anatomy?
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--it reads better to me like thisHow would you conduct a conversation with a vastly superior machine intelligence, which had the power to destroy all humans if it found reason to?
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Is there some reason I have to know this about them during our conversation? If this is something like a stab at realism I guess I'd start by assuming the machine has had this conversation under many guises already...
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--yeah, god-like intelligence presents a few challenges.Hermit wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:38 amThe hurdle is to get to AI attaining human-like intelligence first. It's like successfully harnessing fusion energy - always just a few years away.aufbahrung wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:15 amMight be only months, if that, between AI attaining human like intelligence and God like intelligence. Makes you think?
As for god-like intelligence, which god's intelligence are you thinking of? The one who built the playground right next to the sewer when he designed the human anatomy?
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Devil incarnate and God are indistinguishable at that level I guess? We'll know the being by the history books that get half written?
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Decision making is not intelligence. Computers make decision based on programming and input. Who's feeding them, and who decides the criteria of their decisions?
The divine will of The Great Algorithm is beyond such trivial temporal concerns.
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You are beating Deepak Chopra in the gibberish stakes by a country mile.aufbahrung wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:27 amDevil incarnate and God are indistinguishable at that level I guess? We'll know the being by the history books that get half written?
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Possibly or you need a wider imagination to realise what these entities might do when born into the world?Hermit wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:42 amYou are beating Deepak Chopra in the gibberish stakes by a country mile.aufbahrung wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:27 amDevil incarnate and God are indistinguishable at that level I guess? We'll know the being by the history books that get half written?
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My imagination is boundless, but unlike you I realise when it has entered the realm of gibber.aufbahrung wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:36 amPossibly or you need a wider imagination to realise what these entities might do when born into the world?Hermit wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:42 amYou are beating Deepak Chopra in the gibberish stakes by a country mile.aufbahrung wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:27 amDevil incarnate and God are indistinguishable at that level I guess? We'll know the being by the history books that get half written?
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Unique then? You should write a book. With a index. Showing how its done?Hermit wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:11 amMy imagination is boundless, but unlike you I realise when it has entered the realm of gibber.aufbahrung wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:36 amPossibly or you need a wider imagination to realise what these entities might do when born into the world?Hermit wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:42 amYou are beating Deepak Chopra in the gibberish stakes by a country mile.aufbahrung wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:27 amDevil incarnate and God are indistinguishable at that level I guess? We'll know the being by the history books that get half written?
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