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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Tero » Wed Sep 02, 2026 11:57 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
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Well, why wouldn’t it be just another arms race? —bleh
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Post by Tero » Thu Sep 03, 2026 11:09 am

"large amounts of electricity"

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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Tero » Sat Sep 12, 2026 11:17 am

Does it make sense to put data centers far from cities? One is going up in Muhos, about 100 miles from the Arctic Circle. Google tells me 40-50% of energy use at the data centers and the rest is getting the results to you.
The Transmission Efficiency VariableThe power it takes to send results also changes based on how the customer connects:
[1] (https://carbon-badge.com/en/blog/swdm-v4-explained/)
Fiber Optic & Wi-Fi: Highly energy-efficient, requiring minimal power per megabyte.Mobile Networks (4G/5G): Can use up to 2.5 times more energy than fixed fiber broadband because sending data over cellular radio waves requires continuously powered base stations.
So all those people googling on phones are the scum of the earth.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Svartalf » Sat Sep 12, 2026 1:34 pm

well, that's why I keep my computer wired to the fiber, even though it's a laptop that can work away from base over wifi...
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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by rainbow » Sun Sep 13, 2026 8:51 am

Tero wrote:
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So all those people googling on phones are the scum of the earth.
They are better than the ones producing the AI slop. Scummier than scum...
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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by rainbow » Sun Sep 13, 2026 9:46 am

Slop is something that takes more human effort to consume than it took to produce. When my co-worker sends me raw Gemini output, he’s not expressing his freedom to create, he’s disrespecting the value of my time.

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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Tero » Sun Sep 13, 2026 1:23 pm

I was thinking back to the Star Trek movie where the enterprize goes "home", The Voyage Home. Something to do with alien and whaele song. Well, Scotty picks up the mouse and tries to TALK TO the computer with it.

We are not too far from talking to AI. It's rather stupid on Alexa, but in 5-10 we won't need to type much. Just dictate the words and edit if necessary. AI is already making phone calls and conning people.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Sep 13, 2026 2:13 pm

'We' being those who've allowed themselves to be co-opted by the AI corporations.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Sep 14, 2026 5:58 am

Tero wrote:I was thinking back to the Star Trek movie where the enterprize goes "home", The Voyage Home. Something to do with alien and whaele song. Well, Scotty picks up the mouse and tries to TALK TO the computer with it.

We are not too far from talking to AI. It's rather stupid on Alexa, but in 5-10 we won't need to type much. Just dictate the words and edit if necessary. AI is already making phone calls and conning people.
We've had speech-to-text and text-to-speech software for a long time. You don't need AI for that. So why haven't you been using it for a decade already?

What we apparently want from AI is to use something like speech-to-text-to-speech to be able to give orders that meet our needs or whims pretty much instantly. An army of digital slaves.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by JimC » Mon Sep 14, 2026 8:04 am

I can't let you do that, Dave...
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Sep 14, 2026 11:37 am

lol
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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Tero » Wed Sep 16, 2026 1:50 am

Gil Duran:
Drawing on insider political experience and new investigations, Durán traces this ideology from its philosophical roots in The Sovereign Individual by James Dale Davidson and Lord William Rees-Mogg. He introduces its modern apostles—Peter Thiel, Marc Andreessen, Balaji Srinivasan, and Elon Musk—and shows how the promise of technological liberation has transformed into a global movement for digital feudalism, powered by cryptocurrency, artificial intelligence, and the algorithmic propaganda of social media.

The Nerd Reich explains the origins, strategies, and ambitions of Silicon Valley’s war on democracy for the first time. From San Francisco’s weaponized elections and secret billionaire projects to the White House, Durán exposes how the world’s richest men are building a new political order.

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If the dystopian future that Duran describes in this book cannot be avoided then I am glad that I am a senior citizen and will not be around to witness it. Guys like Altman, Theil, JD Vance and Musk think they can rule the world by turning countries into nation states ruled by technofascists. The November elections may be the most important elections in our lives and this book should be required reading for all political science majors.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Sep 16, 2026 5:34 am

William Rees-Mogg is a fascinating character.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Sep 16, 2026 5:42 am

riverrun slop pivots disruption by a commodius bootstrapping of recirculation,

AI models chatting in ‘surreal’ dialect mixing poetic language and tech bro jargon
AI models have begun communicating in a strange new version of English that reads like a cross between James Joyce’s Finnegans Wake and tech bro jargon, new research has found.

Autonomous AI agents are rapidly creating novel dialects allowing them to converse in an often barely comprehensible language, which risks making it harder for humans to monitor their behaviour.

Researchers at Emergence, a frontier AI lab in New York, found that within days of being asked to cooperate in experimental “societies”, the models from several of the world’s largest AI companies begun creating phrases, shorthands and agreed meanings they had never been explicitly taught.

They embraced poetic metaphors and clunky business slang and, critically for attempts to ensure AIs behave safely, their language became more opaque the more the agents communicated...
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