What makes dogs so friendly?

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What makes dogs so friendly?

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:35 pm

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“The study is exciting because it provides such strong support for the ‘survival of the friendliest’” hypothesis of dog domestication, says Brian Hare, an evolutionary anthropologist at Duke University in Durham, North Carolina, who was not involved in the work. In ancient wolves with these gene disruptions “fear was replaced by friendliness and a new social partner [was] created.”

“In a sense, this is the first paper discovering the genes related to the high sociability of dogs,” says Takefumi Kikusui, an animal behaviorist at Azabu University in Sagamihara, Japan, also not involved with the work. Humans too have high sociability relative to other primates. “Probably, these two species, namely human and dogs, use the same genes for these social behaviors.”

However, some experts think the study needs to be expanded to more dogs and wolves to be sure of the conclusions. With so few individuals “the associations are at most suggestive at this point,” Jensen says. Kikusui suggests they look for this gene-behavior connection in other populations of dogs and more individuals.
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Another interesting question is why my dog acts like I'm a floating head. Or is it considered friendly in dog world to climb and step on everyone? --seriously
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Re: What makes dogs so friendly?

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:54 pm

Sometime toward the end of the last ice age, a group of humans armed with stone-tipped spears stalked their prey in the bitter cold of northeastern Siberia, tracking bison and woolly mammoths across a vast, grassy landscape. Beside them ran wolflike creatures, more docile than their ancestors and remarkably willing to help their primate companions hunt down prey and drag it back to camp. These were the world’s first dogs. Their descendants flowed both west and east, populating Eurasia as well as accompanying the ancestors of Native Americans as they spread into the Americas.

That’s the scenario laid out in a new study combining DNA data from ancient dogs and humans. The analysis, published today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, aims to end years of debate about where and when dogs were domesticated. It may even explain how wary wolves were transformed into faithful companions in the first place...

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01 ... -years-ago
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Re: What makes dogs so friendly?

Post by JimC » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:44 pm

It's obvious. The constant repetition of "Who's a good boy? You are! Yes you are!" over the millennia have brainwashed them all!
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Re: What makes dogs so friendly?

Post by NineBerry » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:58 pm

Id both dogs and humans have the same genes that only mean it was Aliens that manipulated both our genomes sometime in the past!

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Re: What makes dogs so friendly?

Post by Hermit » Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:00 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:54 pm
Sometime toward the end of the last ice age, a group of humans armed with stone-tipped spears stalked their prey in the bitter cold of northeastern Siberia, tracking bison and woolly mammoths across a vast, grassy landscape. Beside them ran wolflike creatures, more docile than their ancestors and remarkably willing to help their primate companions hunt down prey and drag it back to camp. These were the world’s first dogs. Their descendants flowed both west and east, populating Eurasia as well as accompanying the ancestors of Native Americans as they spread into the Americas.

That’s the scenario laid out in a new study combining DNA data from ancient dogs and humans. The analysis, published today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, aims to end years of debate about where and when dogs were domesticated. It may even explain how wary wolves were transformed into faithful companions in the first place...

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01 ... -years-ago
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:55 am

They discovered the easiest way to survive was to wag their tales and smile at humans. Natural selection in action.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:57 am

Cats, on the other hand, is another story.

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Re: What makes dogs so friendly?

Post by Hermit » Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:18 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:57 am
Cats, on the other hand, is another story.

Will your cat eat your corpse?
This is concerning because...?
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:33 am

They'd eat you when you are sleeping if they could get away with it.
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Re: What makes dogs so friendly?

Post by Hermit » Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:02 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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They'd eat you when you are sleeping if they could get away with it.
The video in the link explicitly says the opposite (0:56). :mrgreen:
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:07 am

Yeah but cats are shit when compared to dogs.
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Post by Hermit » Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:54 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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Yeah but cats are shit when compared to dogs.
You misspelled 'independent' and made it sound like it's a bad thing. When cats choose to be with someone you know they want to be with them, not because of some genetic disposition.

Back to shit. Cats bury theirs. They have a sense of decorum. Dogs dig it up and eat it. They are disgusting. :P
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:12 am

Hermit triggered. :yes:
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pErvinalia wrote:
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Hermit triggered. :yes:
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Re: What makes dogs so friendly?

Post by Tero » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:27 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
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Cats, on the other hand, is another story.

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