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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:10 am

Although I say it myself our streets are very clean. The environment is a big thing in Dutch schools and like sex is taught at an early age then throughout school as is sex.
Also long term unemployed (we dont have many of those anymore) have to accept cleaning work to retain their benefit. They wear day glow suits and go around in teams to pick up any rubbish from the streets.
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That's fucked. They should be paid a proper wage with proper employment contracts and conditions. Work for the dole is inhuman.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:16 am

pErvinalia wrote:That's fucked. They should be paid a proper wage with proper employment contracts and conditions. Work for the dole is inhuman.
Why? They dont wont the work. It is only a few hours per week.
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Post by Svartalf » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:31 am

because working at menial task for the dole is dangerously close to a form of indentured servitude, and certainly does little to preserve the dignity of the unemployed
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:34 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:That's fucked. They should be paid a proper wage with proper employment contracts and conditions. Work for the dole is inhuman.
Why? They dont wont the work. It is only a few hours per week.
Because without employment regulations the state is basically taking advantage of cheap labour and a situation (not enough jobs) that it is responsible for.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:35 am

Svartalf wrote:because working at menial task for the dole is dangerously close to a form of indentured servitude, and certainly does little to preserve the dignity of the unemployed
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:54 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:That's fucked. They should be paid a proper wage with proper employment contracts and conditions. Work for the dole is inhuman.
Why? They dont wont the work. It is only a few hours per week.
Because without employment regulations the state is basically taking advantage of cheap labour and a situation (not enough jobs) that it is responsible for.
They are regulated and protected. It is not cheap labour. There are plenty of jobs for them but they dont wont to work. Here you can never have your basic living allowance benefit withdrawn. It is your right but there is a certain section of society that dont want to work under any circumstance. After so many years of unemployment they are expected to do so many hours a month community service. Some clean the streets and others work in hostels or hospitals.
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Post by Rum » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:00 pm

Plus the day glow clothing? Talk about naming and shaming. The Netherlands is letting you down in the 'best in the world' category with this one SD.

Here as it happens people doing community service (i.e. a non custodial sentence for a crime) are sometimes tasked to do this sort of thing. I think we win. :biggrin:

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:06 pm

Rum wrote:Plus the day glow clothing? Talk about naming and shaming. The Netherlands is letting you down in the 'best in the world' category with this one SD.

Here as it happens people doing community service (i.e. a non custodial sentence for a crime) are sometimes tasked to do this sort of thing. I think we win. :biggrin:
It is their choice. They can work in hostels or hospitals etc. They dont have to walk the streets but plenty think it is the soft option. A non custodial sentence is totally different. You wont be sweeping the streets. You would be helping the people that been affected by your actions together with a psychologist.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:45 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:That's fucked. They should be paid a proper wage with proper employment contracts and conditions. Work for the dole is inhuman.
Why? They dont wont the work. It is only a few hours per week.
Because without employment regulations the state is basically taking advantage of cheap labour and a situation (not enough jobs) that it is responsible for.
They are regulated and protected.
How so? Do they have employment contracts?
There are plenty of jobs for them but they dont wont to work.
Rubbish. Numbers of job seekers far outweigh job vacancies. There's turnover, which allows a shuffling of some of the deckchairs on the Titanic, but not all of them.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:23 pm

Not here. We dont have job seekers. We have proper unemployment figures which are not massaged. Our unemployment is 4.6%. Which in practise means there are no employment problems. Once again your Anglo-Saxon mind set is unable to handle how a socialist country treats its people. Unemployment is not treated as a crime. It is an unfortunate position that people find themselves. People are not being exploited but encouraged to try and re-enter the work place. For some is sweeping the street the maximum they can do at the moment. After being unemployed for so long the work place is difficult to get back into. For many others they dont want to work.
Can you loose your basic living allowance in Australia? Do you consider the long term unemployed as lazy?
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:38 pm

God you come out with some shit. You don't have people looking for work? What in the fuck are you on about?
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