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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:51 am

They will have to rename the country; Trump Inc.
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:45 pm

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Brian Peacock wrote::hehe: Even if pErvy got his sums wrong.
My sum isn't wrong. Yours is, however, as pointed out by Hermione. :smug:
Yah, but I got mine wrong with irony :D
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by JimC » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:59 pm

Remedial arithmetic 101 for you, Mr Peacock... :nono:
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Hermit » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:54 pm

JimC wrote:Remedial arithmetic 101 for you, Mr Peacock... :nono:
And iron out the irony while you're at it.
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Forty Two » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:35 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:Have you read anything of this thread other than its title?
Yes. Am I limited in some way by what other people say?

Brian Peacock wrote: In fact, do you believe any of what you've just written?
Don't you? Gender reassignment suggests that a gender is connected with the sexual organs. Aren't you aware that whether you're a man or a woman, or something else, has nothing to do with what bits and pieces you were born with? Or, do you take a position other than that?
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Forty Two » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:36 pm

pErvin wrote:
Forty Two wrote:Gender "reassignment" surgery is now offensive and hurtful.

It's now "gender CONFIRMATION surgery" because you're not "reassigning" gender. The person's gender is the person's gender regardless of their bits and pieces. The surgery is only being made to confirm the person's gender, because their body has it wrong. The real gender is what a person feels like, not what their bits are.
Who cares?
oh, what a giveaway....

come see the transphobia inherent in the system! come see the transphobia inherent in the system! :biggrin:
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Forty Two » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:39 pm

JimC wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Have you read anything of this thread other than its title?

In fact, do you believe any of what you've just written?
I do suspect xe's doing one of his "pretend to be the ultimate PC lefty-liberal" posts, which for 3 X 14 are the summit of ze's wit... :tea:
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But, what I typed is not any sort of pretending. That's the reality of identity politics today. It really isn't "gender reassignment" it is sometimes still said to be "sexual reaassignment" by those who think "sex" is something you're body is born as, but "gender" is something you identify as. But, we can see that academia is fast peddling the notion that biological sex is a myth and is itself a social construct.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Forty Two » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:41 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:5.25 x 7 sometimes comes across as someone who doesn't really have the confidence to state their actual view on something like this, so they plump for the smoke and mirrors of faux irony and hope for plausible deniability if it gets a bit sticky. On might reasonably presume the 378 / 9 actually thinks the exact opposite of what they've posted there.
No, I have no problem stating my actual view on anything. Ask me a question. I'll answer it, and I'll tell you it's my actual view.
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:42 pm

Forty Two wrote:...
Brian Peacock wrote: In fact, do you believe any of what you've just written?
Don't you? Gender reassignment suggests that a gender is connected with the sexual organs. Aren't you aware that whether you're a man or a woman, or something else, has nothing to do with what bits and pieces you were born with? Or, do you take a position other than that?
So you don't believe what you posted and instead chose to ridicule what consider the errant views of others. This says just as much about your views as if you stated them honestly.
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Forty Two » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:42 pm

pErvin wrote:17640.5 just over does the sarcasm. I don't think he lacks the confidence to state his position. It's pretty clear.
Position on what issue?
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:44 pm

Forty Two wrote: But, we can see that academia is fast peddling the notion that biological sex is a myth and is itself a social construct.
Are we? :ask: You've provided a video of one academic saying that and not getting the opportunity to explain or clarify after the initial statement. "Fast peddling"... ok. :roll:
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:45 pm

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pErvin wrote:17640.5 just over does the sarcasm. I don't think he lacks the confidence to state his position. It's pretty clear.
Position on what issue?
Any issue.
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Forty Two » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:47 pm

Hermit wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:5.25 x 7 sometimes comes...
5.25 x 7? That is only 36.25! Four point Two could have you convicted for hate speech in Canada for that, according to his interpretation of the law!
If you don't know how hurtful it is to be misnumbered, well...it's not my job to educate you. :leave:
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Forty Two » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:48 pm

pErvin wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote::hehe: Even if pErvy got his sums wrong.
My sum isn't wrong. Yours is, however, as pointed out by Hermione. :smug:
Mathematics is a social construct.
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Forty Two » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:50 pm

LOL - yes, yes, it's only Americans that are internet trolls. The reaction in the UK, Germany, Poland, Russia and elsewhere would never include the reaction of a minority of internet trolls making shitty comments. That only happens in the US.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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