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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Forty Two » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:18 pm

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Forty Two wrote:I've seen the whole interview, which is available on Youtube. No - he said "biological sex." He was not talking about "psychological gender." The discussion was with Dr. Jordan Peterson, who is leading the fight in Canada against the legal push to REQUIRE under penalty of criminal and civil penalties to use "gender pronouns" (of whatever variety) a person demands. The effort to legally require people to speak certain words. During the discussion, they were very clear that this was "biological sex" he was referring to.

He's a university professor at a prestigious school - University of Toronto - and is a "historian of medicine." He's not an idiot, who doesn't know what words he's using.
Well he clearly is an idiot then, as biologically there is a big difference in sex organs and chromosomes between males and females. It's hard to believe that he actually holds that position. And given your history on misrepresenting issues via biased articles, I'm calling bullshit on it.
According to politically correct progressive thought, you just committed hate speech. It's tantamount to violence.

He does actually hold that position, which is what is so alarming about this. Call bullshit all you want. Watch the entire video. It's available on Youtube and easy to find. it's a mainstream Canadian show -- which was on the CBC - not just some youtube vlog. They were seriously talking about these issues, and talked for over 30 minutes straight about the issues. Nobody was cut off. Nobody was rushed. This was a give-and-take conversation, moderated by a very respectable Canadian interviewer.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:50 pm

Link it. I don't know what the title of the episode is.
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Forty Two » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:52 pm

It's in the "How would you improve the English language" thread.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Hermit » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:37 pm

Forty Two wrote:It's also very offensive to bigendered people...
The war between bigendians and littlendians has been bloody and prolonged. The issue that caused the conflict will probably never be resolved.
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Woodbutcher » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:19 pm

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Woodbutcher wrote:Finnish doesn't have gender based pronouns, just one for humans and one for the rest. I personally would support using the pronoun "it" in english. It seems to become more appropriate every day. :zombie:
That's offensive to otherkin who identify as nonhuman genders, among others. Otherkin can't be referred to by the unisex pronoun, and they are othered and discriminated against by not having a pronoun of their own.

It's also very offensive to bigendered people - who are people who fluctuate between male and female -- calling them "han" with the little "o" on top of the "a" deprives them of their basic humanity, which is to fluctuate between male and female. Finnish needs to add pronouns for male and female, so that bigender people can be referred to with fluctuating pronouns. That's the same reason we in the Anglophone world had to add 70+ pronouns. Having just 2 "others" people who aren't in those two pronouns. Reducing the pronoun count down to one just exacerbates that problem.
OK, then let's go with "he or she, it" and shorten it to "h'orsh'it"
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:55 pm

:funny:

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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:54 am

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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Hermit » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:25 am

Woodbutcher wrote:...let's go with "he or she, it" and shorten it to "h'orsh'it"
:lol:

Have you considered changing your alias to "Wordbutcher"?
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Tero » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:32 am

And where is the parody thread:
Gander reassignment surgery?
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:34 am

I suspect it is nowhere as it doesn't make any sense? :think:
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Tero » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:36 am

Yeah there was no picture material to work with.

But there is a genderbread man. Or person. Google for it.

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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by Tyrannical » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:44 am

So a butch lésbian and a lady boy. It's so gày that it some how cancels each other out.
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by NineBerry » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:00 pm

Tero wrote:And where is the parody thread:
Gander reassignment surgery?
Too early. It's not Christmas yet.

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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:27 pm

@42. I watched the full video (surprisingly). It's a shame as the guy never got to explain what he meant. What was in the short video was all he said on the matter. I googled his name to see if he has expanded on it anywhere, but couldn't find anything. I did find this - https://medium.com/@discomfiting/the-so ... .uvdvbouee . I couldn't really concentrate while reading it, so can't make much sense of it. Maybe you can work out what they are on about.
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Re: Gender Reassignment Surgery

Post by GeneticJen » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:13 pm

Is it weird that I'm desperate for this surgery but I'm also too squeamish to sit through the whole video? :p

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