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Post by Existentialist1844 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:08 pm

I was going to start a thread about this, but it slipped my mind. I saw this episode last week. Though one thing does puzzle me: some of the structures that were built by ancient man seem very complicated. Were the resources around back then to build these structures?
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Existentialist1844 wrote:I was going to start a thread about this, but it slipped my mind. I saw this episode last week. Though one thing does puzzle me: some of the structures that were built by ancient man seem very complicated. Were the resources around back then to build these structures?
(MB) They were built, weren't they? :tea:
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Existentialist1844 wrote:I was going to start a thread about this, but it slipped my mind. I saw this episode last week. Though one thing does puzzle me: some of the structures that were built by ancient man seem very complicated. Were the resources around back then to build these structures?
(MB) They were built, weren't they? :tea:

Let me rephrase: I didnt know resources like that existed. Archaelogists have found many tools from primitive days. What tools could have shaped stones? Ever see how the stones perfectly fit into eachother, like a tetris game. You would need some complicated instruments to do a job like that. Im not saying it was aliens, Im just asking how it could have been done.
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Existentialist1844 wrote:I was going to start a thread about this, but it slipped my mind. I saw this episode last week. Though one thing does puzzle me: some of the structures that were built by ancient man seem very complicated. Were the resources around back then to build these structures?
(MB) They were built, weren't they? :tea:

Let me rephrase: I didnt know resources like that existed. Archaelogists have found many tools from primitive days. What tools could have shaped stones? Ever see how the stones perfectly fit into eachother, like a tetris game. You would need some complicated instruments to do a job like that. Im not saying it was aliens, Im just asking how it could have been done.
If you are referring to the (Aztec / Inca?) stones in S. America that Von Daniken is so keen on mentioning. I'm pretty sure I remember reading that (contrary to EvD's book) they were made of fairly soft stone and had been made to fit by selecting stones that were nearly the right shape and then rubbing the two surfaces against each other to produce a neat fit. No mystery really - just plain old-fashioned human ingenuity.
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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Existentialist1844 wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Existentialist1844 wrote:I was going to start a thread about this, but it slipped my mind. I saw this episode last week. Though one thing does puzzle me: some of the structures that were built by ancient man seem very complicated. Were the resources around back then to build these structures?
(MB) They were built, weren't they? :tea:

Let me rephrase: I didnt know resources like that existed. Archaelogists have found many tools from primitive days. What tools could have shaped stones? Ever see how the stones perfectly fit into eachother, like a tetris game. You would need some complicated instruments to do a job like that. Im not saying it was aliens, Im just asking how it could have been done.
If you are referring to the (Aztec / Inca?) stones in S. America that Von Daniken is so keen on mentioning. I'm pretty sure I remember reading that (contrary to EvD's book) they were made of fairly soft stone and had been made to fit by selecting stones that were nearly the right shape and then rubbing the two surfaces against each other to produce a neat fit. No mystery really - just plain old-fashioned human ingenuity.
Yes, those stones. I guess its an injustice to assume that ancient man wasnt smart enough to build such great structures.
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Re: Total Woo on the History Channel.

Post by Geoff » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:38 pm

JasonK wrote:Dude.
This is also the channel that has the monster show, all the religious shows that aren't purely historical, etc..
They do show the occasional good one. The "Evolve" series was very well done.
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Post by klr » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:41 pm

Geoff wrote:
JasonK wrote:Dude.
This is also the channel that has the monster show, all the religious shows that aren't purely historical, etc..
They do show the occasional good one. The "Evolve" series was very well done.
Right on both counts. What "Evolve" had to do with history as we know it is anyone's guess, but it was great to see it. 8-)
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:54 pm

Existentialist1844 wrote:I was going to start a thread about this, but it slipped my mind. I saw this episode last week. Though one thing does puzzle me: some of the structures that were built by ancient man seem very complicated. Were the resources around back then to build these structures?
Exi, I saw a show where they duplicated the "exact" fit of the stones by simply pushing them back and forth until they had worn away the protruding bits. A 20-ton stone makes an excellent grinder. And if you have fifty men on each side pushing it, the work goes quickly. For moving the stones, see an rational study of Easter Island.
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Re: Total Woo on the History Channel.

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Gawdzilla wrote:
Existentialist1844 wrote:I was going to start a thread about this, but it slipped my mind. I saw this episode last week. Though one thing does puzzle me: some of the structures that were built by ancient man seem very complicated. Were the resources around back then to build these structures?
Exi, I saw a show where they duplicated the "exact" fit of the stones by simply pushing them back and forth until they had worn away the protruding bits. A 20-ton stone makes an excellent grinder. And if you have fifty men on each side pushing it, the work goes quickly. For moving the stones, see an rational study of Easter Island.
It didn't help that Erik vonD claimed that the rock was too hard to grind - which was utter bollocks - but why spoil a good story with facts, eh?
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Post by Existentialist1844 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:31 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Existentialist1844 wrote:I was going to start a thread about this, but it slipped my mind. I saw this episode last week. Though one thing does puzzle me: some of the structures that were built by ancient man seem very complicated. Were the resources around back then to build these structures?
Exi, I saw a show where they duplicated the "exact" fit of the stones by simply pushing them back and forth until they had worn away the protruding bits. A 20-ton stone makes an excellent grinder. And if you have fifty men on each side pushing it, the work goes quickly. For moving the stones, see an rational study of Easter Island.
Ahhh, good point. I guess with enough man power its definitely possible.
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Re: Total Woo on the History Channel.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:33 pm

Existentialist1844 wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Existentialist1844 wrote:I was going to start a thread about this, but it slipped my mind. I saw this episode last week. Though one thing does puzzle me: some of the structures that were built by ancient man seem very complicated. Were the resources around back then to build these structures?
Exi, I saw a show where they duplicated the "exact" fit of the stones by simply pushing them back and forth until they had worn away the protruding bits. A 20-ton stone makes an excellent grinder. And if you have fifty men on each side pushing it, the work goes quickly. For moving the stones, see an rational study of Easter Island.
Ahhh, good point. I guess with enough man power its definitely possible.
There's a valley on the west coast of Peru where they built over one hundred pyramids, including one with the largest volume of any pyramid ever found to date. Every time things went bad for them they'd abandon the old one and start a new one. This one area had enough manpower to that. Putting up some buildings is chum change in comparison.
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