Zika Virus = law/attitude abortion/contraception change?

[Achtland]

With most Latin american countries saying not to have get pregnant for 2 years. And abortion and/or contraception being illegal in those countries. Is this the start of a change to laws that are against womens (and lesser extent mens) health?

[Achtland]

Understand if this is incorporated into ~Small Brain 'Zombie Virus' To Spread Across America's~ thread

[tuco]

Possibly.

[Rum]

Isn't abortion 'allowed' by mainstream Catholicism when the child is at severe risk?

[Achtland]

i know they will only teach abstinence but surly this should be the chance for changing hearts and minds in this situation.

[Rum]

The Vatican rarely changes ruling in the light of real life events. Instead they wait a hundred years and decide that the current dogma needs re-interpreting.

Latin American countries could learn a lot form Southern Ireland which seems to have ditched Catholicism and its dogma almost completely in the last 20 years in the light of the betrayal it suffered at its hands.

[tuco]

Surge of Zika Virus Has Brazilians Re-examining Strict Abortion Laws - http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/04/world ... virus&_r=1

[laklak]

Funny how a few thousand pin heads will change centuries of God's Word, eh?

[tuco]

Not really. Pragmatism been doing that for centuries, unlike ideology.

[Achtland]

But the law makers of a country can change the rules on abortion/contraception so that people can access them (no matter there faith) thus saving lives.

[tuco]

But? But of course, who else but law makers.

From the article:

Proponents of changing the abortion law cite a 2012 ruling by the Supreme Federal Tribunal of Brazil allowing abortions when the fetus has anencephaly, a serious birth defect in which parts of the brain or skull are missing. Almost all babies with anencephaly die shortly after birth, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says. But microcephaly is far less predictable. Even when it is detected before birth, doctors often cannot say what the effects will be, potentially complicating decisions about abortion.

This is pragmatic (dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations via Google) reason. Unlike I dunno .. "women have right to abort because whatever" or "foetus is not human being" etc.

In Brazil, abortions are allowed only in cases of rape or anencephaly or when the mother’s life is in danger. Until recently, conservative lawmakers had been seeking to make legal abortions harder to get, reflecting the influence of Roman Catholic leaders and the increasingly powerful preachers at the helm of a growing evangelical Christian movement.

Led by Eduardo Cunha, the conservative speaker of Brazil’s lower house, an influential bloc of evangelical Christian lawmakers introduced legislation in 2015 to make it harder for rape victims to get abortions by requiring them to undergo a police report and forensic medical exam. Another part of the bill seeks to make it a crime for people to assist in an abortion or to encourage a pregnant woman to have one.

"Rape is not reason to abort (kill..) foetus (human)" .. this is ideology, either way.

The bigger the problem gets, the more pragmatic it gets, in terms of number of affected, the more likely "Christian lawmakers" will be to "change word of God". Its not change, its exception but whatever. Anyway, my point was, that people are more likely to change their believes under pragmatic pressures, unlike ideological. So not funny, not surprise.

[Tero]

Send the pope with special blessed condoms.

[tuco]

Or let those 100.000s(?) affected kids be born, then send them to Vatican to take care of them. That would teach him.

[laklak]

No abortion! It's the undying, unchanging Word Of God Almighty His Goddamn Self!

<pssssst! Popey!>

<what?>

<we got pinheads. Lots of pinheads>

<hmmm....>

OK. You can have an abortion if it's a pinhead! It's the undying, unchanging Word Of God Almighty His Goddamn Self!

[tuco]

That is history of Christianity. Interpretations, exceptions and well hypocrisy. As classic says, there was only one Christian and he died on cross. That is how, not only officials, believers deal with idea(l)s they are not willing or/and able to uphold.